Re^2: YAPC::EU 2012

[JavaFan]

Funny I heard this complain already in Riga from an other American.

"An other American"? Are you implying I'm an American? ;-)

I heard that the only attempt to do it in Canada ended in a fiasco, because many Americans refused to come because they didn't have a passport.

Bollocks.

I've been to both YAPC::NA 2001 in Montreal, and YAPC::NA 2005 in Toronto, and both were a success and did not suffer from "many Americans refusing to come because they did not have a passport". In 2001 and 2005, Americans did not need a passport to enter Canada, or to return home -- that only became an issue in 2009.

For example we need to found a registered society as a legal body. I suppose this overhead is not necessary in the US, you just use the last infrastructure.

AFAIK, YAPC::NA always uses TPF for that, as formally, TPF organizes YAPC::NA (and that's why the profits of its auction always went to TPF).

Furthermore finding sponsors in a country full of dot-coms is easier from the start, you just ask the old sponsors.

And a a big national company in California can much better identify with Madison than lets say a Finnish big player with Frankfurt.

You're not going to ask Shadowcat, Booking.com, or Net-A-Porter this year, because they're too focussed on Letland? ;-)

Anyway you could contact the Committee suggesting that the location of YAPC::EU 2013 will be decided much earlier, to make it easier for the organizers.

Oh, I've been prodding several members for some time about that.

[LanX]

so how many perl conferences did you organize? ;-)

[JavaFan]

What's your point? I cannot refute the false hearsay you're sprouting about conferences you haven't been too, and I have, but since you're trying to organize a conference you're superior?

Look, all I asked was "when is that damned conference". Because, you know, in a few days it's 2012. People will start planning their vacations, and I'll have a bunch of team members who all would like to attent YAPC::EU (most have already spoken at least once on a YAPC). We have to plan things. (Me, after your post, not so interested anymore -- I've been to over 40 Perl conferences, spoken on all but 2 of them; I can miss your YAPC).

[LanX]

As you can see from my post regarding Pisa, I can understand your interest in knowing the date.

My points are

a) other YAPC::EUs I've checked have not been earlier in announcing the date

b) comparing to YAPC::NA isn't fair.

c) If you had already organized such an event, you would know that minimizing the fixed costs takes time.

If you are still thinking we are doing a bad job, I can't help.