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Re^7: Perl 6 and performance

by educated_foo (Vicar)
on Feb 09, 2012 at 19:54 UTC ( #952823=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^6: Perl 6 and performance
in thread Perl 6 and performance

Which implementation of said specification is least buggy and incomplete now?


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Re^8: Perl 6 and performance
by moritz (Cardinal) on Feb 09, 2012 at 20:04 UTC

    Depends on the area you look at. But what does that have to do with Perl 6 (which, again, is a language, and not a compiler) being ignorant of prior art?

    Your criticism comes out like saying "C is not <adjective>" because a C compiler you happen to have worked with isn't <adjective>. Which isn't very educated at all.

    I'm happy to revise my decision if you can come up with several examples that illustrates where the Perl 6 designers are ignorant of prior art.

      I'm happy to revise my decision if you can come up with several examples that illustrates where the Perl 6 designers are ignorant of prior art.

      You're drawing a very fine distinction between somewhat disjoint groups: Perl 6 designers, Perl 6 implementors, and Parrot implementors. Outside of #perl6 and perhaps #parrot, no one cares about this distinction. In truth, that finger pointing is one big reason for my disillusion with the whole thing.

      For a common programmer. Perl 6 means a program that runs everything as defined in the Perl 6 manual. Very few people would bother to know the difference between a specification and implementation.

        I know, but I expect better from somebody who calls himself "educated", has contributed to the VM and arroaches to call the involved people "ignorant".

        I also honestly don't see why that distinction is so hard to grasp. After all C is also a language, and there are many well-known compilers (GCC, MSVC, ICC, ...), and most programmers are aware of that fact.

      Okay, let's try to be "technically correct" (the best kind!).

      I'll choose my favorite C or Java compiler -- you choose your favorite Perl 6 compiler. Does it do profile-guided optimization? Polymorphic inline caches? Real-time garbage collection? Can you even explain these things? Yeah, I didn't think so. Please see GCC and Sun's Java for prior art.

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