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Re^3: Sometimes Perl is awesome: Duck Duck Go edition

by PrakashK (Pilgrim)
on Feb 14, 2012 at 15:55 UTC ( #953721=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: Sometimes Perl is awesome: Duck Duck Go edition
in thread Sometimes Perl is awesome: Duck Duck Go edition

I have found DDG good enough for most queries. It falls down on more obscure stuff -- it has a smaller index -- but I always try it first before I resort to Scroogle and Google.

DDG's !bang syntax allows to have your cake and eat it too.

If I find DDG's results inadequate, and want to continue the search with Google, I just prepend !g to my search terms. DDG will get me Google's results, with all the no-tracking goodness.


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Re^4: Sometimes Perl is awesome: Duck Duck Go edition (!g tracking)
by tye (Cardinal) on Feb 14, 2012 at 17:54 UTC
    DDG will get me Google's results, with all the no-tracking goodness.

    DDG just redirects you to Google where Google is free to, and certainly does, track you in any ways they see fit.

    - tye        

      You are quite right about the redirecting to Google. The redirection is, however, done by the HTTP Refresh header, rather than via the more common 3xx HTTP Status code.

      However, Google does not seem to tie the search request to me, at least looking at the search results page. When I am logged in to Google+, I performed a search directly on Google. The results page showed that Google took my online presence into account, as evidenced by the google-bar with my name, and results from Google+ circles etc. I see 8 cookies from google.com and 14 cookies from plus.google.com.

      Repeating the same search via DDG !g syntax, while still logged in to Google+, I see a different page, with the google-bar asking me to sign in, and generic results from Google+. So, in this case, Google did not associate the search request to my Google account. Also, I see only 8 cookies and no cookies from plus.google.com.

      This is what I meant by "no-tracking" (poor choice of words, I admit).

      It is possible that Google could derive some kind of link to me by IP tracking or other means, but they do not seem to be doing it.

        I don't know how you pull that off. If I'm logged in to google (gmail, in my test case), then using a "!g" search via duckduckgo takes me to google and google shows me as logged in on that page of search results.

        There are lots of variables possible here. The "!g" search takes me to https://encrypted.google.com/ (which might vary based on whether using the http vs https and/or html vs javascript interfaces of duckduckgo). Maybe 'plus' is different from 'gmail' (vs. several other ways to log in to google).

        But thanks at least for the information that there is at least one way to search via google w/o google appearing to notice that you are logged in. The existence of such quite surprises me.

        - tye        

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