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Re^3: Howto abandon rights to a cpan module and stop getting bug reports for it? (time-outs)

by tye (Cardinal)
on Apr 08, 2012 at 01:50 UTC ( #963958=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: Howto abandon rights to a cpan module and stop getting bug reports for it?
in thread Howto abandon rights to a cpan module and stop getting bug reports for it?

It'd be even better if CPAN even allowed a "default trust" model that has been so successful on the internet. I'd flag all of my modules as "default trust" so anybody who felt like I wasn't doing a good enough job of maintaining my module could upload a new version.

Add to that various time-outs so if I never respond to new uploads then those who do the work of uploading can get ownership power over the module name(s).

Heck, let me set the time-outs. How long before a non-author upload becomes official and gets indexed. How long after I upload a new version of a module (or even "refresh" a module as "still up-to-date") before non-author uploads can become official and get fully indexed. How long before a new uploader is automatically declared an authorized maintainer (and thus can set their own time-outs or approve others' uploads).

If I don't configure a specific time-out for a module, then that time-out wouldn't apply to it (CPAN would behave as it does now -- valuing ownership far above contribution and discouraging collaboration).

Though, I'd prefer to require a new version be uploaded and not allow an empty declaration of "still up-to-date". But I suspect allowing the latter would be more successful, at least at first.

- tye        


Comment on Re^3: Howto abandon rights to a cpan module and stop getting bug reports for it? (time-outs)
Re^4: Howto abandon rights to a cpan module and stop getting bug reports for it? (time-outs)
by ikegami (Pope) on Apr 08, 2012 at 02:52 UTC

    I thought anyone can upload a new version. It just gets marked as "UNAUTHORIZED" in red on search.cpan.org

    Besides, there is an existing process for taking over an abandoned module. This is a separate issue from the one brought up by the OP.

      Well yes, technically its different, but its all the same ball of wax -- the current situation requires far too much direct human intervention

Re^4: Howto abandon rights to a cpan module and stop getting bug reports for it? (There's the easy way or ...)
by BrowserUk (Pope) on Apr 08, 2012 at 11:17 UTC
    It'd be even better if CPAN even allowed a "default trust" model ...

    I suspect that that would require long and wide-ranging discussions amongst CPAN authors; would probably require the implementation and validation of various checks and balances; and could conceivably have knock-on affects upon corporate views and policies with regard to CPAN. Five years from now you might finally reach a majority consensus, and all that would be left to do is argue about who is going to implement it; and who is going to fund that implementation.

    On the other hand, the timeouts could probably be implemented by one person over a weekend and -- as it only requires authors to log in once every six months; or respond to an email once every six months -- should be sufficiently uncontroversial that it wouldn't raise objections.


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      The time-outs are the way to allow the "default trust" model. So I'm not sure what you were imagining in the nightmare scenario.

      - tye        

        The time-outs are the way to allow the "default trust" model.

        Hm. Not sure how. What I envisaged doesn't allow anyone except the author to do anything until 7 months after the author last did something.

        I don't see how that would encourage collaboration, but maybe I misunderstood you.

        the nightmare scenario.

        Your words; not mine.


        With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
        Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
        "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
        In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

        The start of some sanity?

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