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Re: Re: Re: Re: (kudra) We see what we want to see, I suppose was Re: Omigawd!

by sierrathedog04 (Hermit)
on Jul 13, 2001 at 22:09 UTC ( #96504=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Re: Re: (kudra) We see what we want to see, I suppose was Re: Omigawd!
in thread Omigawd! Surprised by Reality!

Belief in fairies and leprechauns was not common 180 years ago, especially among those who could read.

I had not known that Ada Lovelace's insanity was a result of abuse.


Comment on Re: Re: Re: Re: (kudra) We see what we want to see, I suppose was Re: Omigawd!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: (kudra) We see what we want to see, I suppose was Re: Omigawd!
by Anonymous Monk on Jul 13, 2001 at 22:39 UTC
    Actually belief in fairies and leprechauns was VERY COMMON during the Victorian cccult revival (about 180 years ago).

    "In 1846, William John Thomas, who contributed the term folklore to the English language, commented in The Athenaeum that "belief in fairies is by no means extinct in England" (Merton, p. 1846, 55). Thorns was not alone in his opinion; he was merely echoing and endorsing the words of others such as Thomas Keightley, the author of The Fairy Mythology. For believers were not limited to gypsies, fisherfolk, rural cottagers, country parsons, and Irish mystics. Antiquarians of the romantic era had begun the quest for fairies, and throughout Victoria's reign advocates of fairy existence and investigators of elfin origins included numerous scientists, social scientists, historians, theologians, artists, and writers. By the 1880s such leading folklorists as Sabine Baring-Gould, Andrew Lang, Joseph Jacobs, and Sir John Rhys were examining oral testimony on the nature and the customs of the "little folk" and the historical and archaeological remains left by them. At the beginning of the twentieth century, eminent authors, among them Sir Arthur Conan Doyle and Arthur Machen, swelled the ranks of those who held the fairy faith and publicized their findings. In a remarkable "trickle up" of folk belief, a surprisingly large number of educated Victorians and Edwardians speculated at length on whether fairies did exist or had at least once existed.

    For the Irish, especially those involved in the Celtic revival, belief in fairies was almost a political and cultural necessity. Thus, William Butler Yeats reported endlessly on his interactions with the sidhe (Irish fairies) and wrote repeatedly of their nature and behavior. His colleagues AE (George Russell) and William Sharp/Fiona Macleod proudly enumerated their fairy hunts and sightings, and the great Irish Victorian folklorists--Patrick Kennedy, Lady Wilde, and Lady Gregory--overtly or covertly acknowledged their beliefs. Even those not totally or personally convinced, like Douglas Hyde, remarked that the fairy faith was alive and well in Ireland."

    Carole G. Silver, Strange and Secret Peoples Fairies and Victorian Consciousness

      "In 1846, William John Thomas, who contributed the term folklore to the English language, commented in The Athenaeum that "belief in fairies is by no means extinct in England" (Merton, p. 1846, 55).
      "By no means extinct" and "very common" are almost opposites. AE was a theosophist and a spiritualist. Same with Yeats. You are dreaming if you think that the average literate Englishperson in 1846 believed that fairies existed.
        You're barking up the wrong tree.

        My point is that the belief you attribute to Ada's insanity is in fact a religious belief that underwent a significant popularization during Ada's lifetime.

        I can understand why you equate this belief with insanity, but you are mistaken. People who can sense non-animal consciousness have never gotten much farther in explaining themselves than those trying to describe colors to the blind...

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