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Re^4: Ruby vs Perl vs LISP; the killer feature lacking in Ruby

by jdporter (Canon)
on May 22, 2012 at 02:53 UTC ( #971706=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^3: Ruby vs Perl vs LISP; the killer feature lacking in Ruby
in thread Ruby vs Perl vs LISP; the killer feature lacking in Ruby

Maybe I should have put "rules the world" in quotes.

the "importance of" the language does not lie in the language itself: it lies in what has already been written and thoroughly debugged in it.
Also significant to me is how easily and how successfully you can integrate what they did with what you did. The way to get anywhere is by standing on the shoulders of giants.

Yes. And Java has much bigger giants than pretty much any other language. So by this metric, it is more "important".


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Re^5: Ruby vs Perl vs LISP; the killer feature lacking in Ruby
by Jenda (Abbot) on May 22, 2012 at 11:17 UTC

    When it comes to marketing ... yeah, them are giants indeed.

    When it comes to the language, the giants that they decided to stand on were aging already when the first version of Java was designed and they failed to add much later on. C#, that once was "our own Java" from Microsoft, has evolved quite a bit more and has spread its weight over quite a few more giants.

    When it comes to libraries ... well, yes, there are companies that believe they are big and important enough to be allowed to continually screw their customers and force everyone to use the only programming language the CEO had ever heard of. (Good bye, Adobe, fare well ... in the direction of Unisys. And hope you've accumulated enough patents and have enough lawyers.) Apart from a few such interfaces to proprietary systems, what are the libraries you speak of?

    Java has wasted billions of dollars on marketing and billions of person-hours on development in a bad language. Though on the other hand we should not forget that it allowed a lot of people to get a "software developer" job.

    Jenda
    Enoch was right!
    Enjoy the last years of Rome.

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