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Re^7: Perl 5 Optimizing Compiler, Part 4: LLVM Backend?

by Will_the_Chill (Pilgrim)
on Aug 29, 2012 at 05:33 UTC ( #990384=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^6: Perl 5 Optimizing Compiler, Part 4: LLVM Backend?
in thread Perl 5 Optimizing Compiler, Part 4: LLVM Backend?

chromatic,

I admit, I was setting up a potentially-false JIT dichotomy to try and understand your arguments better.

Immediately after posting, I figured my use of the term "just" in "just upgrade LLVM" was in poor form - I should have omitted the "just", I agree that it is an oversimplification.

...

Yes, I own and have read the Dragon book.
Yes, I've taken a compilers class during the process of getting a degree in computer science.
Yes, I have written my own functional and procedural languages, complete with BNF grammars, etc.
Yes, I've written more than one interpreter.

...

I am glad you appreciate my enthusiasm. I appreciate your frank input.

The schedule I'm committing to is to have something (anything!) to demo by YAPC::NA 2013.

I have not committed to any engineering decisions, as I am still in the process of research and due diligence. I've spent the last decade working on language theory and design, so I'm not a total newbie here. I'm just not (yet) a Perl Pope or Pumpking. ;)

Thanks,
~ Will


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Re^8: Perl 5 Optimizing Compiler, Part 4: LLVM Backend?
by chromatic (Archbishop) on Aug 29, 2012 at 21:54 UTC
    The schedule I'm committing to is to have something (anything!) to demo by YAPC::NA 2013.

    For some reason, I thought you wanted this project done by then. If you're doing your research now and putting together plans to make some sort of proof of concept, then presenting some findings by next year is very reasonable.

      If I can't get the whole project done by YAPC::NA 2013 (which I am sure everybody here is willing to consider likely), then I'm going to try my best to get us as far as possible so we can have something impressive to demo at least.

      Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and be able to speed up some parts of Perl quite a bit in a year, or at least prove that it will be possible given X amount of effort.

        I can't promise I'll have much volunteer time to help, but if you put together a mailing list, I'm willing to participate when I can.

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