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Re: Is PerlMonks relevant for one's Perl marketability?

by aaron_baugher (Curate)
on Sep 07, 2012 at 16:19 UTC ( #992339=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Is PerlMonks relevant for one's Perl marketability?

I hope it's true, since it's a major reason I'm here, but I can't confirm it (yet). I enjoy helping people here, and I certainly learn a lot, but my main reason for checking in every day and posting hundreds of times is to build up a corpus of evidence that I have a clue. As someone whose Perl work has mostly been behind-the-scenes sysadmin and quick-hack stuff and CGIs that have long since been replaced, I don't have a list of CPAN modules or much public stuff to promote myself. I intend to change that, but in the meantime, I figure I can point to my writeups here and the votes they've gotten as evidence that I know what I'm doing.

However, I haven't done that yet, because I haven't yet revamped my own web site to act as a Perl portfolio and point here as one of my references. So I can't really say whether it would help if I took more advantage of it. I can say that no one's ever contacted me here to hire me, but I get the impression that everyone who comes here intends to do his own work (or get someone to provide the answer for free). So I don't think employers are very likely to just stumble over you here, because this isn't that kind of site.

It may be different for the guys at the very top of the food chain, but that's my experience at level 11. And if any of that sounds like a complaint, I don't mean it that way. This is my favorite Perl site, bar none, and I learn enough here to make it worth participating even if it never generates a dollar of paid work.

Aaron B.
Available for small or large Perl jobs; see my home node.

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Re^2: Is PerlMonks relevant for one's Perl marketability?
by philiprbrenan (Monk) on Sep 07, 2012 at 17:46 UTC

    I suspect that Perl and employment pull in opposite directions: the goal of every Perl programmer is surely to avoid work?

      Ultimately, yes. But in my case, an intermediate goal is to avoid truly unpleasant work like PHP or web design by finding more enjoyable work involving Perl.

      Aaron B.
      Available for small or large Perl jobs; see my home node.

      Yes... and no.

      For example, i'm a lazy person. Or i tried to be, anyway.

      In the process of avoiding having to figure out how to get Apache, PHP and PostgreSQL working on Windows Server 2003 i ended up coding a full-up implementation of my own webserver and webframework. Plus my own mailserver. And a full websocket implementation. Oh, and did i mention my Radius server and minimal test implementation of a GTK3+WebKit based browser? Which is also one of the reasons why i get volunteered rather involuntarily to hold talks on a few local open source conferences each year.

      So, yes, most Perl developers are lazy. In a rather busy and productive way...

      Not complaining, just saying. It's been fun so far, after all.

      "I know what i'm doing! Look, what could possibly go wrong? All i have to pull this lever like so, and then press this button here like ArghhhhhaaAaAAAaaagraaaAAaa!!!"
Re^2: Is PerlMonks relevant for one's Perl marketability?
by sundialsvc4 (Abbot) on Sep 07, 2012 at 22:07 UTC

    Well, recruiters don’t look at PerlMonks, but most Perl programmers do with some frequency.   Being a participant may emphasize that you do (or do not) know what you’re talking about, but really it is your work that speaks for you or against you most clearly.   No matter what else you do in a workplace, don’t piss anyone else off.   You need a body of work that you can demonstrate, and you need good co-worker references.   And none of that is ever going to do your selling for you.

    Marketability is strictly determined by your skills of self-promotion; that is to say, marketing.   I have a friend who is an excellent sysadmin, but, bless him, he couldn’t promote himself out of a paper bag.   Talks about amazing stuff that he routinely does, and it really is amazing stuff ... but put him into an interview and you can almost hear the blam!! as the bullet hits the foot.   Again.   So, participation in a forum is definitely something that you can use in self-marketing efforts, but your success is largely going to depend on your abilities of self-marketing in general.   It’s a skill that must be learned.

      s/most Perl programmers/something like 2 of Perl programmers/

        If that is a true metric, Mom, it sure-as-heck surprises me to hear it.   Although the user group of Perl is huge ...

        Nevertheless ... one more thing must be said about PerlMonks:   I have never been around any group of software professionals who knew more about so many things, and were instantly willing and able to help.   You can just put your ear to the ground and listen to some of the conversations that pass through here every week and learn a lot.   You won’t encounter any fanboi’s around here ... they know their stuff.   You can ask a question and get a thorough answer to it in, like, fifteen minutes or so.

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