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The entire first part of the document covering several sections does the whole "you can have similar classes that have the same method name" dance that I somewhat inaccurately lumped under "inheritance" (since you can, at least in Perl, arrange for this without inheritance by just happening to use the same method name in each). I should have been more accurate and called it "polymorphism".

Many OO languages only achieve polymorphism via inheritance (so that the language can "check" your polymorphism for you). And I don't think I've run into any Perl classes that make use of polymorphism without using inheritance. And all of those sections sounded to me like an introduction to inheritance that didn't want to mention "inheritance" yet.

By my reading, I have to get just over 50% of the way through perlboot before we even mention the concept of data at all (after which we talk about inheritance some more) and it isn't until 85% of the way through before we see that you can have multiple items of data in a single object.

You have to get 85% of the way through the document before you see even mention of what is, to me, the single most important idea of OO (especially in Perl). So, yes, I don't like the approach it takes. Although grouping related data into a structure isn't unique to OO, it is still, to me, the most important piece. This is followed closely by grouping the methods that know how to deal with this data together (which is nearly the definition of an "object", to me).

And I think perlboot leads people into thinking about OO in a way that encourages (heck, makes OO seem pointless without) the use of features of OO that I think should be avoided (by which I don't mean "never used", just don't put them on the top of your list), especially in Perl.

        - tye

In reply to (tye)Re2: Make Perl an OO language by tye
in thread Make Perl an OO language by gildir

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