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Just a small observation: I've noticed that many of the senior monks here must be mathematicians. In that many people point out that "the right way" is some solution X, which never gets implemented, while a lesser, but wildly more implementable, solution Y gets ignored in favour of X.

Mathematicians seem to prefer proving that it can be done rather than doing it, too ;-)

I can buy that "solution Y" is bad because of a, b, and c. But saying that there is a better solution (which isn't going to be implemented in anyone's spare time any time soon) is misleading. Thus, in our current thread, saying, "We're actually trying to close those loopholes, not open them up," is a completely valid, plausible, accurate, direct response. Saying, "A better solution is..." is just misleading. Misleading in that there's an implication that it's not only on the to-do list of the pmdev, but that someone may actually work on it some time in the near future (where "near" is relative, but likely within the next month or two). While you may not have meant that implication, I hope you can at least see how others may infer it (incorrectly), and that's how it becomes misleading.

Even though I'm a firm absolutist, I can still see how perception colours reality - as someone who is still a relative newbie on PM, I can see how some may infer these things. So I'd encourage the more senior monks to be aware of the inferences others may draw, and try to help them not make those inferences.

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