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While I knew my post would be controversial, the distinction I'm not seeing from people is the dividing line between "library" and "framework" (in the same way, perhaps, that many cannot define "pornography" or "enterprise code"). Perhaps I'm being a bit slow, but the only significant difference I see between our definitions of "framework" is that yours is more verbose. There's a certain irony there :)

In my case, the "class of applications" this code provide a defined architecture for is "all OO applications." I'm not limiting myself to Web apps, ORMs, or something similar. So using less code to support a greater range of applications than most frameworks support somehow makes it not a framework? Believe me, I did my reading on this and I'm convinced that the word "framework" is misleading the hell out of people. It's a buzzword I want to smash under my foot.

So I provided what I refer to as a "tiny" framework. Imagine at some point that someone comes along and provides better method validation. Someone else comes along and adds integrated exception handling. Someone else comes along and adds a persistence mechanism. Someone else comes along and calls it a framework. At that point, some people jump on the bandwagon and some people sneer.

If the mere act of calling something a framework makes it a framework, then my code qualifies. If it doesn't make something a framework, then when in the above sequence of events did it become one and why? There's nothing magical about frameworks. There is no minimum size/complexity/buzzword requirement for them. However, it seems to me that in the back of people's minds they seem to think that a framework must somehow be big and restrict the scope of things that can be worked on -- of course, mine doesn't do anything for non-OO code, so maybe it qualifies? :)

Oh, and thanks for actually providing your own definition, unlike the Anonymous Monk above. I appreciate that :)

Cheers,
Ovid

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