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If anyone finds a bug, I want to find it, understand it, fix it for good, and then ensure that it and bugs like it can never appear again. I don't think you get that without serious testing and root cause analysis, and I know you don't get that often (if ever) if QA is a separate entity from development.

Of course it's good to have embedded testers. But I don't think it has much to do with whether bugs get fixed properly or not.

Whether that happens or not seems to me to be more a function of the mindset of the developer, whether he concentrates on fixing the symptom of the bug or fixing-the-hell-out-of-the-bug(tm) once it is found.

In reply to Re^7: An interesting rebuttal of "agile" by jplindstrom
in thread An interesting rebuttal of "agile" by Anonymous Monk

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