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Hi, Im grateful for your detailed explanation. But, i am still having problems.

If i run your code, with the micron encoded as \x{C2}\x{B5} then just using decode('utf8',$clob) seems to work. As you can see from the first set of clob/conv strings below, after the bytes stuff.

clob: 74:68:69:73:20:69:73:20:73:74:72:69:6E:67:20:77:69:74:68:20:C2:B +5:20:69:6E:20:69:74 -- byte conv: 74:68:69:73:20:69:73:20:73:74:72:69:6E:67:20:77:69:74:68:20:C2:B +5:20:69:6E:20:69:74 -- utf8 unix perlio clob: 'this is string with µ in it' conv: 'this is string with µ in it' unix perlio encoding(utf8) utf8 clob: 'this is string with õ in it' conv: 'this is string with µ in it'
However if i actually type a micron into the string using Alt-0181 then i get the following output: note i turned use diagnostics on.
clob: 74:68:69:73:20:69:73:20:73:74:72:69:6E:67:20:77:69:74:68:20:B5: +20:69:6E:20:69:74 -- byte conv: 74:68:69:73:20:69:73:20:73:74:72:69:6E:67:20:77:69:74:68:20:EF:B +F:BD:20:69:6E:20:69:74 -- utf8 unix perlio clob: 'this is string with µ in it' Wide character in print at 742047.pl line 19 (#1) (W utf8) Perl met a wide character (>255) when it wasn't expecting one. This warning is by default on for I/O (like print). The eas +iest way to quiet this warning is simply to add the :utf8 layer to the output, e.g. binmode STDOUT, ':utf8'. Another way to turn off the warning is to add no warnings 'utf8'; but that is often closer to cheating. In general, you are supposed to explicitly mark the filehandle with an encoding, see open and perlfunc/binmode. conv: 'this is string with � in it' unix perlio encoding(utf8) utf8 clob: 'this is string with µ in it' conv: 'this is string with � in it'

That last conv string is i assume your splodge? Perhaps then as no question marks are being output, this is not an encoding problem at all?

I honestly do appreciate all your time

Joe.

Eschew obfuscation, espouse eludication!

In reply to Re^4: Character encoding of microns by joec_
in thread Character encoding of microns by joec_

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