If I'm waiting for a bus that still is being constructed, with no time frame of delivery other than "before Christmas", and has been under construction for 11.5 years, while the bus that it is supposed to replace has been upgraded several times, and it now being upgraded on a yearly basis, I'd take the old bus to work every day.
I'd consider Perl6 to "be there" when there's a business who makes enough money with Perl6 that it's willing to donate EUR 100,000 to the Perl6 maintenance fund, with several other Perl6 companies funding YAP6C to the extend they run a profit.
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