Re^5: What operator should perl5porters use for safe dereferencing?

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Especially the moon! Also, I understand that pretty much everything (including the moon) can be customized, but why make things more difficult?! It seems like every day this week at YAPC::NA there was talk about making Perl (and the community) more accessible to non-Perl people, bringing in and welcoming new users and new generations of users, and increasing diversity of the userbase and the community. Well, by making it required to customize your browsers, etc. just to tell the difference between ~> and -> automatically selects against people that are just becoming interested in programming. Today, there was a discussion during Larry Wall's Fireside Chat about trying to avoid losing scientists to other programming languages. Well, most scientists I know (and probably a lot of other professions that use programming on occasion) do NOT have the time to figure out what needs to be done to do such tweaks. This will just result in more frustrated beginners taking up our time trying to figure out why their code isn't working.

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Re^6: What operator should perl5porters use for safe dereferencing? by Anonymous Monk on Jun 16, 2012 at 10:55 UTC
but why make things more difficult?! Why exaggerate? Pretty much every font turns unreadable when font size is too small, there is no defense around it, and all it takes for it to turn readable is Ctrl-WheelUp or Ctrl-+ Well, by making it required to customize your browsers, etc. just to tell the difference between ~> and -> automatically selects against people that are just becoming interested in programming. To quote the spirit of JavaFan , why should that be my concern? There are plenty of perl warts , whats one more? do NOT have the time to figure out what needs to be done to do such tweaks Well that sounds patently absurd, but ok, so just give them a copy of Padre, the Perl IDE, or emacs conf file, or vim conf file, and then they don't have to figure out how to get the best out of their chosen tools This will just result in more frustrated beginners taking up our time trying to figure out why their code isn't working. Ha! Ha! I think you ascribe too much significance to a single solitary character, besides, aren't we here to answer questions, to give our time to help frustrated beginners? My opinion not influenced by your post count here :)	[reply]

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Re^6: What operator should perl5porters use for safe dereferencing?
by Anonymous Monk on Jun 16, 2012 at 10:55 UTC

but why make things more difficult?!

Why exaggerate?

Pretty much every font turns unreadable when font size is too small, there is no defense around it, and all it takes for it to turn readable is Ctrl-WheelUp or Ctrl-+

Well, by making it required to customize your browsers, etc. just to tell the difference between ~> and -> automatically selects against people that are just becoming interested in programming.

To quote the spirit of JavaFan , why should that be my concern? There are plenty of perl warts , whats one more?

do NOT have the time to figure out what needs to be done to do such tweaks

Well that sounds patently absurd, but ok, so just give them a copy of Padre, the Perl IDE, or emacs conf file, or vim conf file, and then they don't have to figure out how to get the best out of their chosen tools

This will just result in more frustrated beginners taking up our time trying to figure out why their code isn't working.

Ha! Ha! I think you ascribe too much significance to a single solitary character, besides, aren't we here to answer questions, to give our time to help frustrated beginners?

My opinion not influenced by your post count here :)

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