Yes, I'd say I'm the P6 tell-all. I'm not much of a coder these days but I've been following the project since the start (with time off for good behavior); participating in the P6 community around the edges; reading #perl6 daily for 2 years; producing daily summaries of #perl6 for a year.
Jenda's post provided some useful stats but his/her narrative didn't square with reality and was unfair to people I feel I know and love and ultimately to the entire Perl community.
I think innocent bystanders are likely to believe the picture painted by posts like Jenda's and think P6 is a dead, dying or at least struggling project. Given that I know otherwise and ultimately care about the whole Perl community more than Perl 6, I post facts that might mitigate the destructive elements of this armchair analysis and am willing to endure the attacks such as yours.
I'm pretty much the only monk who focuses their PM posts on P6. Moritz Lenz is a respected monk and well loved top P6 hacker, but he seldom mentions it here at PM, in large part because a handful of vocal PMers are so unfriendly. Stefan O'Rear, another top P6 hacker, pretty much only posts code, technical documentation, and release announcements ever, and never here at PM. Really, other than me, how often do you see someone posting about P6?
Excepting me, P6ers are basically doing exactly as you suggest. They are working their butts off, developing the system that Larry Wall designed to help save Perl's bacon in years to come, and ship code and technical documentation, with little fanfare and even less credit.
The P6 project has been shipping something every month for nearly SIX YEARS. Of course, your answer will now be that you didn't mean "SHIP SOMETHING", you didn't mean ship crap, but rather ship something folk can use. And then I'll point out that it isn't crap and some folk are using it. And then you'll argue that it must be crap otherwise I wouldn't have called it just something and you didn't mean a handful of early adopters, you meant average folk. And so it goes on. I understand that you are frustrated or annoyed or whatever that P6 isn't what you want it to be when you want it. That doesn't mean misleading posts are best left unchallenged, if you care about the monastery and broader Perl community, and is the reason I respond to posts such as Jenda's. (Usually I ignore trolls such as yours.)
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