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Re^3: CPAN Module Installation (aka Oh, God, Here We Go Again)

by BillKSmith (Monsignor)
on Jul 25, 2014 at 20:47 UTC ( [id://1095096]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: CPAN Module Installation (aka Oh, God, Here We Go Again)
in thread CPAN Module Installation (aka Oh, God, Here We Go Again)

Everyone who finds it trivial to find, download, install, initialize and test required, but unfamiliar utilities on their new windows computer already has strawberry perl! Everyone else weighs the advantages against the effort. I choose AS many years ago and have rarely regretted my choice.
Bill

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Re^4: CPAN Module Installation (aka Oh, God, Here We Go Again)
by marto (Cardinal) on Jul 26, 2014 at 07:33 UTC

    For both AS and Strawberry perl you download and run the installer, both are straight forward processes. If you have a 64bit system (as we see with the question which kicked off this thread) AS can not automatically install and configure MinGW and the build tools. Strawberry ships with this (and much more) as standard and requires no extra input from the user. In conclusion for installation, AS only supports this on 32bit Windows platforms. Downloading and configuring MinGW could be considered tricky for a novice.

    As for the 'unfamiliar utilities', with the exception of AS having a PPMGUI, they're the same regardless of platform, cpan, PPM, C compiler etc. Regardless of which you choose configuration will be required for PPM/cpan if you're behind a firewall or have strange networking issues.

    I find that Strawberry ships with a more feature complete development environment (see the release notes). Of course, you're mileage may vary.

    On the subject of PPM repos the last time I looked, which was some time ago, the numbers of active repos was static and support for new perl releases was lacking. Apart from the ActiveState repos this may still be the case. I'm not sure if the non AS repos have mirrors to mitigate against outages for whatever reason, questions have been asked here in the past about this.

    Paying $999 per OS installation, per year for access to AS repositories for what they consider to be 'older' versions of perl seems expensive to me. The fact they want to charge for their services is not surprising, they're a business after all, however most people I run into who hit this issue are running the community edition in violation of section 4 of the license, in so much that they're using it for production systems and find that they can't access AS repos. In such cases I advise that they either pay for the product they are actually using or switch to Strawberry Perl. I've yet to see someone fork out the money the rather than just download the latest community edition and start installing their modules again, or move to Strawberry.

    I just don't know what AS brings to the party nowadays.

    Update: Fixed typos.

Re^4: CPAN Module Installation (aka Oh, God, Here We Go Again)
by marto (Cardinal) on Jul 25, 2014 at 20:51 UTC

    "Everyone who finds it trivial to find, download, install, initialize and test required, but unfamiliar utilities on their new windows computer already has strawberry perl!"

    Sorry, I can't understand what your first sentence is supposed to mean.

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