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Why don't my tied hashes make the defined/exists distinction?

by faq_monk (Initiate)
on Oct 08, 1999 at 00:20 UTC ( #629=perlfaq nodetype: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

Current Perl documentation can be found at perldoc.perl.org.

Here is our local, out-dated (pre-5.6) version:

They may or may not implement the EXISTS() and DEFINED() methods differently. For example, there isn't the concept of undef with hashes that are tied to DBM* files. This means the true/false tables above will give different results when used on such a hash. It also means that exists and defined do the same thing with a DBM* file, and what they end up doing is not what they do with ordinary hashes.

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[ambrus]: Corion: well sure, but that's the similar to any printed document, and the margin is diminishing with today's technology. Video games no longer have to assume that the CRTs won't show the edges of the screen.
[Corion]: If you cram your slides with that much information, they might work in an "offline" situation but not very well for a live presentation IMO
[ambrus]: Corion: in that case I also ask the people who rent the conference rooms to tell conference organizers about the available tech.
[Corion]: ambrus: No, you're misunderstanding. If you place content too far on the left/right/top/ bottom, people might not see it because the view is obstructed ;)(
[Corion]: In Amsterdam, the screen went down to the bottom of the stage (60cm above ground) and the seating was on the ground, meaning that the rows in the back couldn't see the bottom of slides.
[Corion]: There also were some columns that meant that maybe you couldn't see the left/right edge of a slide.
[ambrus]: Corion: Sure. I've had a course in a 50 seat lecture hall that has two fucking columns in the middle.
[Corion]: Talking about it, the top should be fairly visible in the situations I've experienced at least. The top is uncomfortable for people in the first three rows, but that's life ;)
[ambrus]: The pillars are there because this is in the 6th floor of building R of BME, which is an attic that was built in after the original building, which is also why the elevator doesn't go that high and the windows are tiny.
[Corion]: ambrus: Hehe ;) Yeah - such real life stuff is far more inconveniencing than wasting display area due to screen ratio problems :)

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