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Is Perl undervalued (by some people) for similar reason(s) like GNU/Linux?

by j0se (Pilgrim)
on Dec 07, 2012 at 12:05 UTC ( #1007722=perlmeditation: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

Some arguments against using GNU/Linux and maddog's counter-arguments seem similar to those related to Perl. Just one example from the article: "Most of the reasons why people think they can not use Free and Open Source Software, and particularly GNU/Linux, is that they are thinking about the GNU/Linux of fifteen years ago, and not the GNU/Linux of today."

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit. --Will Durant (Aristotle)

Comment on Is Perl undervalued (by some people) for similar reason(s) like GNU/Linux?
Re: Is Perl undervalued (by some people) for similar reason(s) like GNU/Linux?
by BrowserUk (Pope) on Dec 07, 2012 at 12:40 UTC
    not the GNU/Linux of today.

    The problem is which GNU/linux -- yesterday or today. And tomorrow they'll be another one vying for attention.

    Ditto: command shell; window manager; app manager; ...

    The real problem is the fragmentation.


    With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
    Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
    "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
    In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

    RIP Neil Armstrong

      The problem is which marmalade!

      Linux is like marmalade; just pick one and try it. If you don't like the taste, then you can buy a different brand for a couple of quid.

      perl -E'sub Monkey::do{say$_,for@_,do{($monkey=[caller(0)]->[3])=~s{::}{ }and$monkey}}"Monkey say"->Monkey::do'

        I bet you can't find this many types of marmalade. (Which as it happens I dislike also.)


        With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
        Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
        "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
        In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

        RIP Neil Armstrong

Re: Is Perl undervalued (by some people) for similar reason(s) like GNU/Linux?
by sundialsvc4 (Monsignor) on Dec 07, 2012 at 14:25 UTC

    “Why do you care what other people think?”
    – Richard Feynman

    “It were not best that we should all think alike; it is difference of opinion that makes horse-races.”
    – Mark Twain

    “The value of an opinion is only measured by its user.  It’s ironic that the value of a fact is only measured by its observer.”
    – Lionel Suggs

Re: Is Perl undervalued (by some people) for similar reason(s) like GNU/Linux?
by blue_cowdawg (Prior) on Dec 07, 2012 at 15:38 UTC

    Well... my first instinct is to avoid these religious wars. If I'm a Protestant and you're a Roman Catholic your arguments for being a Catholic are as valid as mine for being a Protestant or whatever your belief system or lack of one for that matter.

    That said: I am a devout believer in "right tool for the job." I have a laptop that runs Linux Mint but my Desktop won't work with Mint. I run straight up Debian on my desktop (AKA Gnu/Linux if you do a uname -a on the box.) I have used Fedora, RHEL, Centos, Gentoo and a few others not to mention BSD in a few cases. My work laptop runs Winbloze 7 and to get around that I run Cygwin/X. Each case has its pluses and minuses but they all work for the given need. Certainly if I had my druthers I'd be running some form of Linux on my work laptop, but given the direction (right or wrong) of computing where I work that is not feasible.

    Perl of fifteen years ago and the Perl of today bear some resemblance to one another but I can say there are enough differences that the newest version(s) are far better than what we had to work with fifteen years ago.

    Folks that question the relevance of Perl today are in my opinion missing the boat. There are plenty of "ancient languages" out there that remain relevant. I offer "C" as an example with "C++" being another. Most of Linux at the lower levels are written in one or both. There are Python scripts in some of the distros for utility functions and quite frankly I've always questioned "why Python?" but that's just me.


    Peter L. Berghold -- Unix Professional
    Peter -at- Berghold -dot- Net; AOL IM redcowdawg Yahoo IM: blue_cowdawg
Re: Is Perl undervalued (by some people) for similar reason(s) like GNU/Linux?
by eyepopslikeamosquito (Canon) on Dec 07, 2012 at 21:06 UTC

    Right after clicking on your node, I clicked on Selected Best Nodes and noticed Why Perl is a Valid Choice, which seems relevant. :)

    Without wanting to get involved, it seems there are four categories of language religious war:

    1. "Open Source" (Perl,Python,Ruby,...) vs "Corporate" (Java,C#,...)
    2. "Open Source" infighting: Perl vs Python vs Ruby vs PHP ... (related to BrowserUk's point about "fragmentation" in the Linux world).
    3. "Corporate" infighting (often involving lawsuits): Java vs C# ...
    4. Fighting about type systems (static,dynamic,"weak","strong"...) (e.g. Perl/Python/Ruby vs C++/Java/C#/Haskell).
    and it is the first category above that most resembles your linked Maddog counter-argument blog post.

Re: Is Perl undervalued (by some people) for similar reason(s) like GNU/Linux ? (what people? why should I care? ask them?)
by Anonymous Monk on Dec 08, 2012 at 03:21 UTC

    Why don't you ask "those people?" whomever they are?

    I live in a bubble, so I don't have an opinion

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