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Re: Who gave (and continues to give) Tye McQueen his authority for his autocratic domination of PerlMonks?

by ig (Vicar)
on Sep 04, 2013 at 04:29 UTC ( #1052209=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Who gave (and continues to give) Tye McQueen his authority for his autocratic domination of PerlMonks?

I have been here only a few years but over that time both you and Tye have been very helpful to me and others.

You said 'please vote' and considering the extent of your contribution here I am inclined to but I find the negativity and invective in your posts in this thread off putting. Clearly you are frustrated, but I don't know why. Perhaps I should know more or better or make the effort to find the evidence but... maybe I am lazy to a fault.

I don't contribute nearly as much here as you do and my limited experience might make me unfit to judge, but I have had no experience with Tye that causes me the frustration or disrespect that your post suggests.

I am pleased that Perl Monks is here. I don't know much about the contributions other than the posts themselves. I assume considerable time and resources have been given by many. I don't think it is my place or proper for me to expect or demand change to what is so generously provided.

I care. I don't know. I have nothing against Tye and respect and appreciate his contributions here, as I do yours. Everyone has their faults. Sometimes one finds them offensive. Despite whatever it is that has offended you to motivate this post, I hope you will continue to contribute as you have done - predominantly politely and constructively.


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Re^2: Who gave (and continues to give) Tye McQueen his authority for his autocratic domination of PerlMonks?
by BrowserUk (Pope) on Sep 04, 2013 at 09:31 UTC
    Perhaps I should know more or better or make the effort to find the evidence but... maybe I am lazy to a fault.

    And that appears to be the primary lesson from my shaking the box.

    This place could be better, and that would be nice, but if it requires effort ... ooh. There's a new kitty video trending on twitface.

    Don't be offended by that, it's neither a personal nor actual accusation of anything. Just an exaggerated statement of what appears to be.

    Combine that with the very real fear that saying anything that might offend the management could cause the instance, permanent, and unappealable revocation of one's privilege to be here; and it is easy to see that there is neither the appetite nor realistic possibility for change.


    With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
    Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
    "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
    In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

      In short, those are interesting thoughts, quite right, it seems to me, but I still don't know, don't have authority or influence to make a difference and am not enough motivated to try (my fault, not yours).

      I think apathy is the greater impediment to change but there is always the possibility of it and appeal to all concerned will be most effective, in the long run, at least for those of us who do not have authority. This, combined with tolerance and forgiveness.

        That's an interesting and thoughtful response; for which I thank you.

        I've been trying to shut this thread down, but that deserves at least some response. so I'll hope you'll forgive me for picking out and responding to one line of your post:

        If there are no gods, how are decisions to be made? How is anything to be done, for better or worse, without being no sooner done than undone?

        Never did I suggest that the Gods should disappear; nor even that Tye should not be a God.

        If you read the title question carefully, I asked how did it come about that one person came to exercise such total and capricious will over the running and maintenance of this site.

        It is well documented that Tye & I do not play well together, but it was not a "personal" thing. I wasn't seeking to depose him, nor offering to replace him. Just questioning whether his authority was achieve by accident or design; and whichever, whether it is a good thing.

        Then someone -- I unfortunately blamed Tye, but have since been convinced (reliably informed) to the contrary -- messed with my account. For daring to ask the question.

        And thus, the question and the debate that might have been, has been effectively dodged & defused into a "just BrowserUk shouting the odds" event. Clever management.

        You'll note that no one from management has even attempted to respond to the question. Whatever comments they have made have been either righteous indignation or sock-puppeted poison-the-well distraction. Cleverly stage-managed and silently supported.

        But, that mostly came after the general apathy was evident; and thus overkill.

        There is nothing to be done; because they won't even address the question. And will use every means -- fair or foul -- to suppress it. They hold the cards, and that's the end of it.


        With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
        Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
        "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
        In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

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