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Re: Re: First char out of a string & surprises with errors on chop reverse $string (that doesn't work!)

by eduardo (Curate)
on Dec 26, 2001 at 21:47 UTC ( #134433=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: First char out of a string & surprises with errors on chop reverse $string (that doesn't work!)
in thread First char out of a string & surprises with errors on chop reverse $string (that doesn't work!)

Ok... we'd figured that far when jeffa got:
sub bar { my $str = "foo"; return scalar reverse $str; } print chop bar(); captvanhalen: $ perl foo Can't modify non-lvalue subroutine call in chop at foo line 6, near " +);" Execution of foo aborted due to compilation errors.
Now, my question is... that's not very "DWIM" of perl... (at least not to me!) Why does reverse not return an lvalue?
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Re: Re: Re: First char out of a string & surprises with errors on chop reverse $string (that doesn't work!)
by merlyn (Sage) on Dec 26, 2001 at 21:55 UTC
      Definite agreement... reverse $foo = "merlyn"; makes little to no sense. However, chop reverse $foo; does seem relatively reasonable... (though I see how it quickly goes to hell in a handbasket.) I remember when in my Data Structures in C++ class they tried explaining the reason to overload some operators as lvalues, and some not... it always seemed like you could *find* a scenario where you may want that functionality (though I doubt 2 + 2 = $foo; would ever be a good one :) Well... thanks to everyone for the answers! I am going to agree that it really makes very little sense to let reverse return an lvalue... though I think the obfuscation "value" alone may warrant it :)
        though I doubt 2 + 2 = $foo; would ever be a good one :)
        "2 + 2 equals $foo, for certain values of 2"... hmmm...

        No, really, i think 2 + $bar = 3 would be a nice way to write $bar = 1, but _very_ hard to make.

        2;0 juerd@ouranos:~$ perl -e'undef christmas' Segmentation fault 2;139 juerd@ouranos:~$

Re: Re: Re: First char out of a string & surprises with errors on chop reverse $string (that doesn't work!)
by Juerd (Abbot) on Dec 26, 2001 at 21:56 UTC
    For the same reason 2 + 2 doesn't return an lvalue.
    Besides, there's no reason for having reverse return an lvalue. TMTOWTDI, and reverse chop was never supposed to be one of them. Still, there are a lot of other WTDI.

    2;0 juerd@ouranos:~$ perl -e'undef christmas' Segmentation fault 2;139 juerd@ouranos:~$

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