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Re: New hints....

by Masem (Monsignor)
on Feb 28, 2002 at 20:01 UTC ( #148358=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to New hints....

One thing I would like to see expanded in the hints below the postbox is the "where to post" question, specifically:
  • the distinction between SOPW and Q&A. The latter should be more general perl questions and should be very short akin to FAQ questions (with a link to perlfaq); SOPW are more specific and may require a longer setup to explain.
  • the distinction between Meditations and Discussion. The latter is for discussion on the mechanics and operation of PerlMonks the site, the former is for all other general perl discussion.
Still retain the links, but I think these two points should be clarified if we're going to add more to it to start with.

Dr. Michael K. Neylon - || "You've left the lens cap of your mind on again, Pinky" - The Brain
"I can see my house from here!"
It's not what you know, but knowing how to find it if you don't know that's important

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Re: Re: New hints....
by demerphq (Chancellor) on Feb 28, 2002 at 20:17 UTC
    The problem with adding more is to ensure that it all fits on one screen (assuming a standard monitor size).

    Still this seems to fit ok:

    • Are you posting in the right place? Short general question? Q&A Longer or non general question? SOPW General thoughts on perlish subjects? Meditations Is it about the monastery? PMD Check out Where do I post X? for more.
    • Posts may use any of the Perl Monks Approved HTML tags   Currently these include the following....
        <CODE> <A> <B> <BIG> <BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <DD> <DL> <DT> <EM> <FONT> <H1> <H2> <H3> <H4> <H5> <H6> <HR> <I> <LI> <NBSP> <OL> <P> <SMALL> <STRIKE> <STRONG> <SUB> <SUP> <TABLE> <TD> <TH> <TR> <TT> <U> <UL>
    • Snippets of code should be wrapped n <CODE> tags NOT <PRE> tags. In fact <PRE> tags should in general be avoided but if they must be used then extreme care should be taken to ensure that their contents do not have long lines (<70 chars). Otherwise the Editors might get mad at you.
    • Want more info? How to link
    • or How to display code and escape characters are good places to start.

    Is that what you had in mind?

    Yves / DeMerphq
    When to use Prototypes?
    Advanced Sorting - GRT - Guttman Rosler Transform

      Some questions/comments:
      • The list of approved tags is not complete. I imagine PRE was left out on purpose, but why list the tags if it isn't a complete list and there's a link where a complete list is available? I'd rather see that space used for something else--in my experience trying to use unallowed tags is something editors rarely have to fix, compared to
      • the misuse of PRE tags (which is why I think that the line about CODE tags should be listed before approved tags),
      • posting in the wrong place (maybe SOPW should be listed first, as it is where most people should post),
      • people who aren't logged on (when they want to be),
      • and poor titles. I'd rather see the things that cause the most work addressed in the limited space than the things which are automatically taken care of.
      • I agree with the person who suggested the mention of search and super search.
        I left out PRE tags because they were listed twice in the line about CODE tags and I wanted to emphasize the use of CODE tags so having PRE tag listed 3 times versus code tags only twice seemed wrong, (I admit I was tempted to leave PRE tags out entirely but decided not to for the very reason you pointed out). As for why did I list them in the order I did? No better reason than I was trying to mimic Vrooms original showhints() order.

        Once again though for many of your points and the others listed (well, the supersearch one is an entirely different question as it requires changing a different piece of code) while excellent they just dont work out for space reasons. At some point theres a tradeoff between pointing something out in the space that will be seen and putting in so much that half of it is overlooked.

        Still your point about the code tags susggestion going first (my origianl plan intil I noticed it changed the current order) is a good one and if I find a minute perhaps Ill give it a whirl to implement some or all of the suggestion you and everyone else gave.

        Yves / DeMerphq
        When to use Prototypes?
        Advanced Sorting - GRT - Guttman Rosler Transform

      Pretty close, save that I wouldn't use abbreviations in the text here, since this should be considered newbie text.

      But it was only meant to be a suggestion, or at least a starting point for additional discussion. :-) If others feel it's not needed, then it's not needed.

      Dr. Michael K. Neylon - || "You've left the lens cap of your mind on again, Pinky" - The Brain
      "I can see my house from here!"
      It's not what you know, but knowing how to find it if you don't know that's important

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[Corion]: ambrus: Well, for mathematical notation, I find blackboard much more convenient than a computer. But when inserting text or moving text around, the computer wins obviously
[ambrus]: But either of these is a big problem in practice, so I'd need to spend like thirty years of my life to solve (a) and five more years to solve (b)
[ambrus]: Corion: yes, CURRENTLY the blackboard is more convenient
[ambrus]: and it's not like I want to ban blackboards anyway
[ambrus]: you already have blackboards and a canvas for projector or overhead transparencies (or positive film slide projector, not used for maths) canvas in the same lecture halls today, and switch in a few minutes between presentations,
[ambrus]: they're only difficult to use together.
[ambrus]: overhead transparencies are a nice convenience by the way that mix the two slides, because you can write them in advance and edit them during the presentation easily. but they're not very much in fasion these days.
[ambrus]: you can even print them.
[Discipulus]: ambrus i'm trying out MremoteNG which wrap putty and rdp and many other things..
[Corion]: ambrus: Yes, ideally you would have the ease of overhead projection transparencies and pens drawing on them, combined with the computer generated slide text...

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