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My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...

by tye  (Monk)
on Jan 31, 2004 at 22:15 UTC ( #325590=poll: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

vote on My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...

TCP
[bar] 137/28%
UDP
[bar] 111/23%
ICMP
[bar] 20/4%
IPX
[bar] 8/2%
SMB
[bar] 8/2%
TFTP
[bar] 24/5%
SMTP
[bar] 52/11%
NNTP
[bar] 18/4%
HTTP
[bar] 68/14%
WAP
[bar] 12/2%
SOAP
[bar] 35/7%
493 total votes
Comment on My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by b10m (Vicar) on Jan 31, 2004 at 22:44 UTC

    UDP! Who needs handshakes? Just yell ...

    --
    b10m

    All code is usually tested, but rarely trusted.

      I also chose UDP, but I was thinking more abstractly because I send out a lot of data but don't wait for a confirmation... =)

      --
      Allolex

        I also chose UDP, but my thinking was because I tend not to acknowledge communications unless necessary. Also, my communications seem to get dropped often because I've been told to "speak up"... ;)


        ----
        Zak - the office
      UDP isn't really like yelling (unless you toss UDP packets at the broadcast address). It's more like writing a note to someone, sticking a dart through it, then throwing the dart at the recipient, covering your ears and running away. For this very reason it made my short list of favorites.

      However I ended up voting for SOAP (actually for it's simpler cousin, XMLRPC - being a closet Python and Java hacker (uh oh - here comes the --) means XMLRPC is more widely implemented than SOAP and simplifies interoperability). I've been playing with it some recently, and it is a really simple way to move information without worrying about the busy work or complexity of other solutions. It's also neat to build XMLRPC handlers into your existing Perl/CGI or mod_perl scripts and suddenly get all kinds of new worlds of functionality out of them.

      Of course this also merits a nod to HTTP, FTP, SMTP and those other protocols that you can run SOAP/XMLRPC on top of.

Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by hardburn (Abbot) on Feb 01, 2004 at 00:00 UTC

    A list for people who can't decide:

    • TCP Conversation starts with short phrases, and could end on an exhastive discourse on the monarchy of middle-age China
    • UDP You start conversations with a discourse on the monarchy of middle-age China, but you often skip words in the middle of the sentance, or walk away while you're still talking
    • ICMP You run up to people, scream "PING!" in their ear, and run away
    • IPX IPX-type people used to be their own kind, but are now largely considered a subset of TCP-type people
    • SMB You enjoy running up to a group of people, yelling "HI, EVERYONE!!!", and then run away, only to return a few minutes later
    • TFTP Your communication contains only essential details
    • SMTP You enjoy harrasing people with your blater one person at a time
    • NNTP Like SMTP, but you do it to many people at once
    • HTTP Everyone seems to like you, despite glaring problems
    • WAP A mostly theoretical communication type that has yet to see a working, practical example
    • SOAP You like hanging around an HTTP-type person, but will sometimes be around an SMTP-type person, just to prove you can

    ----
    I wanted to explore how Perl's closures can be manipulated, and ended up creating an object system by accident.
    -- Schemer

    : () { :|:& };:

    Note: All code is untested, unless otherwise stated

      WAP A mostly theoretical communication type that has yet to see a working, practical example

      Did you know that WAP stands for Wasn't Actually Possible?

      I can't really say that I am one protocol, I would rather think of myself as an old clunky server, with a bunch of ports open. (going by Schemer's definitions)

      • If I am talking code, I would say UDP, definetely. (but they either walk away or their eye's glaze over)
      • TFTP at home, I have a 7 year old and 2 year old twins, essential details are important.
      -stvn
      An alternative interpretation:
      • TCP You prefer to have long lasting exchanges, and you always know exactly who you are talking to.
      • UDP You utter short phrases and you don't care if you are heard or not. Sometimes you aren't talking to anybody in particular.
      • ICMP You exist only to faciliate conversations between other people but you don't have anything to add to the discussion yourself.
      • IPX You are amish. You refuse to do things the modern way and you don't speak directly to non-amish people.
      • SMB Refusing to speak proper English, you expect everybody around you to learn your native language.
      • TFTP You still use telegrams Stop Nothing wrong with that Full Stop
      • SMTP You are a mailman.
      • NNTP You hold meetings for everything that you do.
      • HTTP All you want to know is "What are you asking of me?"
      • WAP You don't have much to say, but you can heard far and wide.
      • SOAP You are Charles Dickens. Paid by the word, you tend to write much more than you need to get the point across.
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by thelenm (Vicar) on Feb 01, 2004 at 00:17 UTC

    Definitely TCP. I need lots of ACKs back and forth to make sure I understand what my wife is talking about, or else I get very confused.

    -- Mike

    --
    XML::Simpler does not require XML::Parser or a SAX parser. It does require File::Slurp.
    -- grantm, perldoc XML::Simpler

      Sounds like you need an UDP wife. Just let her rant and don't reply ;)

      --
      b10m

      All code is usually tested, but rarely trusted.
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by BrowserUk (Pope) on Feb 01, 2004 at 01:08 UTC
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by rob_au (Abbot) on Feb 01, 2004 at 01:09 UTC
    SOAP

    Longwinded and often without point :-)

     

    perl -le "print unpack'N', pack'B32', '00000000000000000000001010111011'"

Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by belg4mit (Prior) on Feb 01, 2004 at 01:48 UTC
    UDP... order not guaranteed

    --
    I'm not belgian but I play one on TV.

Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by Zaxo (Archbishop) on Feb 01, 2004 at 05:10 UTC
    NTP - try for consensus, only to find that nobody really wants to give an opinion.

    After Compline,
    Zaxo

Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by coec (Chaplain) on Feb 01, 2004 at 07:38 UTC
    Most of senior managementSome people where I work would use SNMP. From a distance what they say seems vaguely reasonable but on closer inspection you see that they cause more harm than anything else...
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by Paulster2 (Priest) on Feb 01, 2004 at 12:01 UTC

    As I keep telling my boss, I'm not a networking kinda person. I don't have a clue! Maybe it's a mental block? Maybe I'm just mental. Either way, works for me.

    Paulster2

Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by CountZero (Bishop) on Feb 01, 2004 at 18:41 UTC
    Carrier pigeon? If you have nothing to say, you can eat it.

    CountZero

    "If you have four groups working on a compiler, you'll get a 4-pass compiler." - Conway's Law

      Sometimes my communication style is a lot like a NO CARRIER pigeon.

      -- Mike

      --
      XML::Simpler does not require XML::Parser or a SAX parser. It does require File::Slurp.
      -- grantm, perldoc XML::Simpler

      Carrier pigeon? If you have nothing to say, you can eat it.
      "Because of the recent breakdown in communications, the shooting of carrier pigeons is now a court-martiable offense."

      Blackadder: Alright then, I did not shoot this pigeon, we received no message telling us to advance. Do you think you can remember that?

      Baldrick/Percy: Yes sir!

      Blackadder: Good, now, I shall eat the evidence.

      (or something to that effect :-)


      "Ex Libris un Peut de Tout"
      Carrier pigeon? If you have nothing to say, you can eat it.
      There is nothing like roast squab finely served!
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by tilly (Archbishop) on Feb 01, 2004 at 19:05 UTC
    I had to say NNTP. I'm often carrying on multiple multi-threaded conversations at a time. :-)
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by etcshadow (Priest) on Feb 01, 2004 at 23:36 UTC
    HTTP... but specifically like HTTP running on a slow, one processor machine with a crappy scheduler.

    That is: always being easily interrupted by new questions, and typically answering very short and to the point questions with answers that just go on and on and on.

    Oh, and Content-Length: ...? Hell, no. Transfer-Encoding: chunked, baby... you never know how long I'm gonna just keep prattling on.

    ------------ :Wq Not an editor command: Wq
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by rdm (Hermit) on Feb 02, 2004 at 01:18 UTC
    I'll stick with my WAP call - my style resembles HTTP superfically, but I adapt the output to fit to the current audience's capabilities. ^_^
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by kutsu (Priest) on Feb 02, 2004 at 04:48 UTC

    I'm a TCP person, start out with short greeting end up with long converstation that nobody remembers the point of ;)

    "Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - I think that I think, therefore I think that I am." Ambrose Bierce

Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by DrHyde (Prior) on Feb 02, 2004 at 09:23 UTC
    Bugger being "the most like" one of those protocols. My interpersonal communication protocol *is* SMTP. I am my email address.
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by parkprimus (Sexton) on Feb 02, 2004 at 14:33 UTC
    I thought about UDP but chose TCP because I did not want to be seen talking to my self for hours and hours!
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by Roger (Parson) on Feb 02, 2004 at 14:36 UTC
    I am definitely UDP, I lose track of things when they don't come back to me. ;-D

Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by tbone1 (Monsignor) on Feb 02, 2004 at 18:36 UTC

    According to some people, for me it's like:

    listen.pl > /dev/null 2>&1
    or something. I really don't know and don't care.

    --
    tbone1, YAPS (Yet Another Perl Schlub)
    And remember, if he succeeds, so what.
    - Chick McGee

Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by flyingmoose (Priest) on Feb 02, 2004 at 19:33 UTC
    ICMP. It's like "Whazzup"... and they're like "Dude!".

    Occasionally you get people that aren't listening or decide not to answer back because they are better than you or blocked by the router.

    I'm from the South, and here "Whazzup" is translated to "How's it going?". The response is usually "How's it going". Yep, ping-back. Rarely do we respond with any useful status, making it much like ICMP.

    If you did reply back, it's expected you reply back with "fine" whether or not you are fine or not, since no one actually wants to hear about your problems. Imagine if they actually asked for more information? That's like responding to a ping with a full nmap port scan. Not cool.

Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by elwarren (Curate) on Feb 02, 2004 at 22:50 UTC
    UDP: Constantly firing off bits of info and not waiting for their response.

    They either get what I'm saying or not. I've grown weary of explaining details to people that won't retain it anyway. Example, "What do you mean I don't have to put the WWW in front???"
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by Skeeve (Vicar) on Feb 03, 2004 at 12:43 UTC
    HTTP!
    I kinda forget what others told me, and what I told them, unless they remind me by giving me a cookie ;-)
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by gregor42 (Parson) on Feb 03, 2004 at 16:06 UTC
    SOAP - the protocol of the New Yorker doing business

    I never know who has what I want nor do I care what it takes for it to happen. I know it's out there somewhere. I demand what I want in excruciating detail and it gets taken care of.



    Wait! This isn't a Parachute, this is a Backpack!
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by KPeter0314 (Deacon) on Feb 03, 2004 at 16:07 UTC
    WAP - After telling my boys a dozen or so times to do something, a light WAP usually gets them moving. 8^)

    -Kurt

Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by insite2000 (Acolyte) on Feb 06, 2004 at 02:28 UTC
    I chose HTTP because you can throw anything you want at me but I only respond 'OK' if I like it. Otherwise I'll smile nice but I'm not listening. I was trying to think of something witty about 404 and blue jeans, but my incredible physique forces me to wear 550 relaxed fit. Somebody pass the chips.
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by bradcathey (Prior) on Feb 06, 2004 at 02:52 UTC
    I couldn't find TGIF on the list, which most closely matches my style.

    —Brad
    "A little yeast leavens the whole dough."
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by Berik (Sexton) on Feb 07, 2004 at 00:57 UTC
    I chose SMB cause I not a great speaker, while my peers seem to understand me quite well. =)
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by coec (Chaplain) on Feb 07, 2004 at 10:45 UTC
    I had a painful out-of-hours support call from a COBOL developer a couple of days ago (I'm a Linux/AIX sys admin, though more Linux than AIX). It went a little like this:
    Developer: <initiates converstaion via mobile phone>
    Me: <accepts call>Hello.
    Developer: problem blah blah whine blah
    Me: Have you tried
    Developer: <sends SIGINT followed by detail not relating to current conversation>
    Me: Have you tried
    Developer: <sends SIGINT followed by explaination of what the system did several years ago>
    Me: Have you looked at
    Developer: <sends SIGINT followed by detail not relating to current conversation>
    Me: <sends SIGUSR1 to self causing deep breath and hold temper>Let me log in and
    Developer: <sends SIGINT followed by question as to why this occurred>
    Me: <wants to send SIGKILL to developer>
    ...
    grrr
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by gmpassos (Priest) on Feb 09, 2004 at 04:04 UTC
    TCP, because it works, it's simple, and it's in anywhere!

    Well, actually a lot of protocols in the list are based on TCP.

    Graciliano M. P.
    "Creativity is the expression of the liberty".

Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by makar (Novice) on Feb 09, 2004 at 16:24 UTC
    I think the only humor I can bring to this is my lack of knowledge. For me, IPX is the thingy that I used to play Descent as a teen ^_^.
Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by mce (Curate) on Feb 11, 2004 at 09:13 UTC
    Hey, what happened to the good old SNA.

    It is (or better used to be) host centric, follows a well defined path, and is very robust. :-)


    ---------------------------
    Dr. Mark Ceulemans
    Senior Consultant
    BMC, Belgium

Re: My interpersonal communication protocol/style is the most like...
by OverlordQ (Hermit) on Feb 14, 2004 at 01:20 UTC
    UDP!! Unreliable Data Packets!

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