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Updated: Gramatical cleanup's and Ant comment at end

This is awkward because I agree with much of what sporty and flyingmoose have said on the topic, but I think the dichotomy of the two languages is best seen at the enterprise level. Perl suffers from lack of enterprise level acceptance for pretty much the same reasons that Java is accepted.

Never the twain shall meet? Possibly, though I was pleased to see that Java 1.5 has finally been released as I believe it will be much more developer friendly.. and besides the regex capability is now much more Perlish.

But on a much more interesting note for PM'ers is the work the JBoss group did to PHP's Post-Nuke. Seems to me a marriage of Perl with J2ee would good advertisement for both languages

While I've seen the Java zealotry that was mentioned in the post I believe it's just simply the "Java is my hammer" effect, as most good developers that I know weigh the tool to the job without predjudice.. ( ok just a little *g* ). The fact is in terms of maturity Java is still young in comparison to Perl or others. This youth explains the type/quality of existing documentation and support. In regards to ..there is no CJAN comment. The fact is that Java builds in the namespace inherently. It is only the limited number of quality contributions that limits it at this point.

Concerning the time required to develop or present Java problems in a fashion more conducive to an algorithmic mind, much of this has to do with the confusion around and in the wasteland of Java IDE's. From what I've seen comming from the developers that have moved into the eclipse IDE I have seen the quality ease of dialoge improving at a fast pace, as much of what use to be just enviornmental issues are more coherently and easily relagated to 'plug-ins'.

(Gotta say though that ant is a poor excuse for a job that is better done by Perl) -just another .02


In reply to Re: OT: JavaJunkies (Javamonks sorta) by coreolyn
in thread OT: JavaJunkies (Javamonks sorta) by coreolyn

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