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May I respectfully suggest that you go stand amongst Scottish supporters at a rugby or football match and start chanting loudly for England? The following ~~few days in hospital~~ "lively discussions" might realign your attitude on this subject.

And just in case you're tempted to reply "Who cares what the Scots themselves think", I'll paraphrase your own words in this node and say "This issue isn't about what you personally consider the definition of England, and it is very egotistical and narrow-minded of you to try to make it about that.".

Update: marto rightly admonished me for portraying Scottish football fans as hooligans, which from personal experience I also know is overwhelmingly not true, I was attempting to be facetious here. While I wouldn't want to guarantee the complete physical safety of an England supporter in a Scottish fan-block (rivalry between the two fan-groups is rather fierce and does lead to violence occasionally, and there are twats in every sport supporter group) he would more likely than not get off with a good-natured ribbing.marto++

All dogma is stupid.

In reply to OT Re^2: Consideration for obscenity by tirwhan
in thread Consideration for obscenity by ptum

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