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I've watched the US Presidential Debates

by vroom (Pope)
on Oct 06, 2000 at 07:48 UTC ( #35534=poll: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

vote on I've watched the US Presidential Debates

Yes
[bar] 68/23%
No
[bar] 37/13%
I don't live in the US and don't care
[bar] 59/20%
I live in the US and don't care
[bar] 37/13%
This poll sucks
[bar] 19/6%
Larry for President
[bar] 74/25%
294 total votes
Comment on I've watched the US Presidential Debates
3rd Party Candidates.
by rlk (Pilgrim) on Oct 06, 2000 at 07:56 UTC

    My college newspaper ran an amusing cartoon about the debates, which, though it loses a bit in conversion to text, I will attempt to share with you

    Panel 1
    Caption: "Gore's Canned Answers"
    Picture: Caricature of Gore, standing at a podium, saying "Blah Blah Blah"

    Panel 2
    Caption: "Bush's Canned Answers"
    Picture: Caricature of Bush, standing at a podium, saying "Blah Blah Blah"

    Panel 3
    Caption: "Nader and Buchanan's Canned Answers"
    Picture: Nader and Buchanan sitting in a trash can outside a door labeled "Debates: Keep Out".

    Hmm, perhaps you had to see it. Anyway, I'm voting for Harry Browne. *shrug*

    --
    Ryan Koppenhaver, Aspiring Perl Hacker
    "I ask for so little. Just fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your slave."

(ar0n: go nader) RE: I've watched the US Presidential Debates
by ar0n (Priest) on Oct 06, 2000 at 14:38 UTC
    I watched the debate on CNN the next day, as it was on at 3:00 AM here.

    I really wish Nader and Buchanan would've been allowed to debate alongside Bore and Gush.
    Oh well.

    I like Nader; I like what he stands for. I don't think he'd be fit to be president, but it would be nice to see the Green Party gain some momentum.

    I'll be voting Green in 2004...

    [ar0n]

RE: I've watched the US Presidential Debates
by ybiC (Prior) on Oct 06, 2000 at 15:37 UTC
RE: I've watched the US Presidential Debates
by Jonathan (Curate) on Oct 06, 2000 at 15:53 UTC
    Being English this issue normally wouldn't concern me much (other than hoping the liberal wins) but Bush scares me even more than Reagan.


    "We are all prompted by the same motives, all deceived by the same fallacies, all animated by hope, obstructed by danger, entangled by desire, and seduced by pleasure." - Samuel Johnson
RE: I've watched the US Presidential Debates
by Anonymous Monk on Oct 06, 2000 at 23:53 UTC
    Who's Larry?

        And here I thought it was McLean Stevenson ("Colonel Henry Blake")'s character on his post-M*A*S*H sitcom. Just goes to show what I know =)

        Not-the-AM

        Philosophy can be made out of anything -- or less

RE: I've watched the US Presidential Debates
by AgentM (Curate) on Oct 07, 2000 at 00:04 UTC
RE: I've watched the US Presidential Debates
by adamsj (Hermit) on Oct 07, 2000 at 04:28 UTC
    Okay, so I impulsively voted "Larry for President" but, on further consideration, why waste his talents?
RE: I've watched the US Presidential Debates
by TStanley (Canon) on Oct 07, 2000 at 06:35 UTC
    I thought that Bush held his ground against Al the bore,
    and I thought it was amusing for Al to bring up his family
    again to make a point, whereupon Bush slammed him on the
    issue they were debating over, asking him where he gets
    his figures from. Al Gore scares me silly, because you
    wonder why he lies or distorts the truth, then acts surprised
    when someone calls him on it.

    TStanley
    There can be only one!
      "Al Gore scares me silly, because you wonder why he lies or distorts the truth, then acts surprised when someone calls him on it."

      OK, can you prove that Gore said something untruthful in the debates? Moreover, can you name an instance in which Bush called Gore on anything beside "Washington style fuzzy math"?

      Each time that Gore named a figure, Bush would respond with either a personal attack, or he would call Gore's numbers "fuzzy". Not once did Bush provide statistics or any other form of verifiable proof that Gore was lying, bending the truth, or misrepresenting himself.

      Gore also ACTUALLY ANSWERED QUESTIONS, something that Bush didn't think was neccessary. Bush just stood there and stuttered, repeating the same hackneyed phrases over and over.

      Besides, I would rather have a boring president, than a president that says thing like, "...a school that works with at-risk children (that basically means that they can't learn)."

      redmist
      redmist.dyndns.org
      email::redmist
        OK, can you prove that Gore said something untruthful in the debates?
        Give me a transcript and I'll show you. both candidates lied but Gore does so far more, or would you have us believe he DID invent the internet There was also the issue of the lady who picks up cans to pay for her medicine. and the schoolgirl who had to sit on a box, where he neglected to mention that it was for one day because the room was full of brand new computers that hadn't been unpacked yet. There have been so many of these completely bogus stories lately it's not even funny I could go on for hours but I have better things to do.
        Moreover, can you name an instance in which Bush called Gore on anything beside "Washington style fuzzy math"?
        Bush proposes $1 trillion in new spending and tax cuts, Gore is proposing $3 trillion but Gore claims that Bush will put us back into deficit spending, but his plan won't.
        math="fuzzy" if 3 < 1

        Each time that Gore named a figure, Bush would respond with either a personal attack, or he would call Gore's numbers "fuzzy". Not once did Bush provide statistics or any other form of verifiable proof that Gore was lying, bending the truth, or misrepresenting himself.
        Statistics can be made to say anything, to say that statistics are proof is just plain wrong. And did you bother to check them? Alot were exagerated.
        Gore also ACTUALLY ANSWERED QUESTIONS, something that Bush didn't think was neccessary. Bush just stood there and stuttered, repeating the same hackneyed phrases over and over.
        Maybe you just couldn't hear Bush's answers over all that sighing and ruffling of papers. And Gore won the repitition contest, say that the evil "...richest one percent..." 15 times according the wall street journal.
        Besides, I would rather have a boring president, than a president that says thing like, "...a school that works with at-risk children (that basically means that they can't learn)."
        Can you say the words Out of Context. also when you cut someone off in a quote you HAVE to put three periods or it's an inacurate quote.
        "...a school that works with at-risk children (that basically means that they can't learn the same as other children)."
        I think is the correct quote. can't cut people off midsentance like that.
        And I saw no personal attacks either way. Just because Gore says it's one doesn't mean it is.
        I also have one great fear with Gore and Clinton. If they knew it or not the Chinese who consider us enemies gave funding to their campaigns. This troubles me greatly.
        And no I'm not going to vote for Bush either.
RE: I've watched the US Presidential Debates
by little (Curate) on Oct 07, 2000 at 07:35 UTC
    Just b.t.w, I'm missing the option to vote "I don't live in the U.S., but I do care !"
    Hopefully one day ... :-)
    Have a nice day
    All decision is left to your taste
RE: I've watched the US Presidential Debates
by runrig (Abbot) on Oct 07, 2000 at 21:29 UTC
    Just once I'd just like to see a poll question along the lines of "if a third party candidate had a chance in hell of winning, then who would you vote for?"

    We have only two bad options to choose between, but everyone knows it'll end up being one of them. Just wondering how many people just don't want to 'throw their vote away' on a third party candidate.
    I'd be leaning toward libertarian myself.
      DAMN PLURALITY VOTING!

      it does not have to be like this, but the "Major Parties" don't want anything else because they can manipulate pluralities so easily through their media ties.

      imagine not having to "throw away your vote" on the "lesser of two evils" while still being able to express your relative approval of all candidates. oh, how i wish for an electoral process in the U.S. that satisfies the Condorcet Criterion (i like Tideman's method in particular). alas!

      (you have my most sincere apologies for the lameness of the provider hosting the linked pages.)

"T" Party 2000!!!!
by Mork29 (Scribe) on Oct 07, 2000 at 22:18 UTC
    First there was the Boston Tea Party. Now, there is "T" Party 2000!!! Thats right, the "T" party has nominated Mr.T as our president elect and we're starting a write in campaign. SO VOTE FOR T!
RE: I've watched the US Presidential Debates
by MadraghRua (Vicar) on Oct 12, 2000 at 08:16 UTC
    Good one Petruchio!
    Actually an even more worrying thing was the fact that the VP debates were cogent, reasoned and addressed real questions with real numbers, stats, etc. Why is this? Are we to believe that the President is only about surface and VP about substance?

    It totally sucks how we are left looking at these two daddies boys for only three debates. I much prefer watching the pols battle it out on the English House of Commons broadcasts - then you see who is who and what is what over six to seven years. The nature of infotainment here means that unless you're a dedicated CPAN viewer (and lets face it - who isn't) you really have no idea what these characters are.

    It seems that so much information is spun and massaged that you really are reliant on a ton of research to get an idea of what Bush or Gore have been up to.
    I'm voting for the first time this year and I think I'll go with Nader - at least he hasn't been bought and paid for by the Zaibatsu.

    MadraghRua
    yet another biologist hacking perl....

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