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Re: Quantum Weirdness and the Increment Operator

by Abigail-II (Bishop)
on Jun 24, 2004 at 13:49 UTC ( #369357=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

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in thread Quantum Weirdness and the Increment Operator

Just don't chastise him for experimenting with the language and reporting his findings. He's learning. Let him learn.
Oh, goodie. Now that's helpful! Anyone who's experimenting with the language, we just let them go, and admire them from a distance, keeping silent.

And then we wonder why people stop programming in Perl because their production code failed in mysterious ways. They walked into a swamp, and we let them, cause that will "teach them".

Now please excuse me, I've some "dangerous curve" signs to remove.


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Re^2: Quantum Weirdness and the Increment Operator
by japhy (Canon) on Jun 24, 2004 at 14:06 UTC
    You are misinterpreting me. I did not say to "let them go", "keeping silent". I said not to chastise the orignal poster for saying "this code confused me, so I tried to find out why it works the way it does, and this is what I found out".

    Certainly, tell him not to use that kind of construct in his production code, and tell him that the documentation does not provide a defined behavior for it, but don't be angry or impatient with him.

    And you've blended "learning" with "doing in practice". Just because I learn something (like how crazy this ++X and X++ business is) does not mean I'm going to employ it. Some "swamps" need to be investigated for signs of life, but that doesn't mean the scientist needs to live in the swamp.

    Jeff[japhy]Pinyan: Perl, regex, and perl hacker, who'd like a job (NYC-area)
    s++=END;++y(;-P)}y js++=;shajsj<++y(p-q)}?print:??;
      What the fuck do you want from me? I explain what's wrong, including quotes from the documentation, and still you're not satisfied. Should I've called a couple of social workers to bring the news to him easily?



        No social workers, no, but you could have made your point without resorting to being insulting; I quote...

        "This is trivially explained, and I'm amazed there are still people giving this any serious consideration. Let me spell it out once more, in easy to read letters: "

        Now if that's not equally rude, patronising and unhelpful then I don't know what is. A simple "The behaviour is undefined, see Perldoc for reference." would have done nicely. Furthermore, when your abrasive tone is questioned, you resort to abuse...

        "What the fuck do you want from me? I explain what's wrong, including quotes from the documentation, and still you're not satisfied."

        Your skill or knowlege is not being questioned, your social skills are. A terse, to-the-point answer is a good thing, but being rude isn't.


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