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Re^2: When I count, I think of numbers as...

by dimar (Curate)
on May 28, 2005 at 17:07 UTC ( #461366=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re: When I count, I think of numbers as...
in thread When I count, I think of numbers as...

... which might be really confusing to someone who learned elementary arithmetic using Cuisenaire Rods. (
zero ;; (transparent) one ;; whi - white two ;; red - red three ;; lgr - light green four ;; pur - purple five ;; yel - yellow six ;; dgr - dark green seven ;; bla - black eight ;; bro - brown nine ;; blu - blue ten ;; ora - orange

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Re: When I count, I think of numbers as...
by jonadab (Parson) on May 29, 2005 at 11:20 UTC

    No, no, no. This being a tech-geek forum, you should all know the *real* color/number correspondance:

    6brown/orange (dark yellow)
    7light grey
    8dark grey
    9bright blue
    10bright green
    11bright cyan
    12bright red
    13bright magenta
    14bright yellow

    "In adjectives, with the addition of inflectional endings, a changeable long vowel (Qamets or Tsere) in an open, propretonic syllable will reduce to Vocal Shewa. This type of change occurs when the open, pretonic syllable of the masculine singular adjective becomes propretonic with the addition of inflectional endings."  — Pratico & Van Pelt, BBHG, p68

      That's only one of them, the default palette used by VGA cards. But there's another one, the one used by vt100 terminals and internally by linux. That one has the red and blue bits swapped, like 0=black, 1=red, 2=green, 3=yellow, 4=blue etc. I know this because this second scheme is used by the \e]P palette changer escape sequence. (This is btw another proof why this is not the real color/number correspondence: that's only the deafult palette, you can change it to whatever you like. I've rebound magenta to orange once to display Rubik's cube patterns nicely.) The translation table between the rgb and bgr scheme is color_table in /linux/drivers/char/console.c.

      Update: see also Re: What is the Perl Color?.

        This is btw another proof why this is not the real color/number correspondence: that's only the deafult palette, you can change it to whatever you like

        VGA cards use it as the default for backward compatibility. It was introduced by CGA cards, and on those it was not merely the default and could not be changed; it was hardwired. (CGA cards did not have any way to display a color given arbitrary red/green/blue values. They *only* had the sixteen colors, ever, period. As an added bonus, you could only get more than four of them on the screen at once in text mode (although there were tricks available to make text mode appear to be a low-res graphics mode).)

        I was pretty sure the CGA colors also match the ANSI colors, but I shouldn't be surprised that the VT100 used a different scheme; DEC did a lot of things differently from the rest of the world, such as using Category 4 (not 3, not 5) cable and MMJ connectors for networking, or the extraordinarily wacky way VMS expresses directory paths.

      Surely black, brown, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet, grey, white?

      Or have I read one RS catalogue too many?

        You really don't want to know the mnemonic my high school physics teacher gave us to remember the color codes on resistors.
Re^3: When I count, I think of numbers as...
by talexb (Canon) on Jun 06, 2005 at 18:48 UTC

    Good grief, and I thought *I* was the only one who learned counting with those. They go back to Kindergarten, 1963-64 at Elmwood Elementary in Rosemere, QC. I remember the ones (white) and twos (red), but that's about it.

    I also remember making a plasticene snake several tables long with a bunch of laughing classmates, but .. that's not important right now.

    Alex / talexb / Toronto

    "Groklaw is the open-source mentality applied to legal research" ~ Linus Torvalds

Re^3: When I count, I think of numbers as...
by ambrus (Abbot) on Sep 05, 2008 at 22:49 UTC

    Strangely, I remember that we had similar rods in elementary school, but I think the color scheme was different. I'm sure 1 was white, but one of the shorter ones (2 or maybe 3) was light blue. Also, there were a few longer rods, I think 12 and 20 long ones.

      I just checked the color scheme of the counting rods they're selling in the shops. (Yes, I could have done this any time in the previous eight years. Sorry for being late.)

      • 1: white
      • 2: light pink
      • 3: light blue
      • 4: red
      • 5: yellow
      • 6: purple
      • 7: black
      • 8: dark brown
      • 9: dark blue
      • 10: orange
      • 12: green
      • 16: light brown
        You took 8 years to follow-up on a reply to your own post, that's 11 years old?!? (And, here I thought that was a new post and even made a reply!)

        PS: Doesn't matter. Learned some new things about how people see colours

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