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Re^3: This isn't a job offer.

by Anonymous Monk
on Apr 04, 2007 at 14:47 UTC ( [id://608290]=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re^2: This isn't a job offer.
in thread This isn't a job offer.

Dont know what flurry of activity this one will start, but would just like to point out that there are many in India who would love to move to the US for short-term/long-term projects, given no visa restrictions. So either the guys within the US offer themselves to being more flexible, or soon we may find even mid-sized companies in the US moving to India for one additional reason - the flexibility of the guys there. Or companies in the US may actually start handing out short-term visas for professionals from other parts of the world citing shortage of skilled people. The world is a big melting-pot...

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Re^4: This isn't a job offer.
by Anonymous Monk on Apr 05, 2007 at 03:08 UTC
    I think that this is an interesting point. Having worked in IT for many years, whenever my employers would see an applicant from India, they would always roll their eyes.... (The joke was that there was always one Patel who would send a resume.)

    I think the problem here is that many small to medium sized companies don't want to jump through hoops to hire someone. The LAST thing that want to deal with are visa issues. Yet there are a lot of Perl programmers in India who are willing and capable of filling Perl positions here in the US.

    Many companies rather not fill the positions and let their software departments suffer for a long time, before even considering the idea of hiring someone from abroad. It is sad because I have noticed how well qualified many India programmers are. Most of them are very well educated and have accomplished quite a bit.

    What is ironic is that Indians (along with Chinese) make up such a large percentage in US computer science graduate schools.

      Could you (anonymously if need be) point me to any of the well qualified India programmers? I don't remember meeting any, neither here nor elsewhere on the Net. I've met quite a few that THOUGHT they were qualified and were pompously spreading utter nonsense. I've met quite a few that refused to learn or even just to listen, here and elsewhere. I've had to fix some stuff produced by Indians. So I'm a bit doubtful of the media hype about hordes of highly skilled and well qualified Indian developers.

        I think it has something to do with the languages spoken by the Indians and Chinese.

        You can hear it come out when they speak English. Just a string of syllables linked together without any stress, punctuation or intonation where a native English-speaker would place it.

        Perl is a lot like English. Java is a lot like a long string of syllables that work just fine as long as you do it exactly the same way every single time. English has many ways to say exactly the same thing. Some ways we "say" something really aren't English at all.

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