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Re^2: Breaking Out of the Perl Echo Chamber: A Call to Action

by Aristotle (Chancellor)
on Sep 21, 2008 at 21:07 UTC ( #712886=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Re: Breaking Out of the Perl Echo Chamber: A Call to Action
in thread Breaking Out of the Perl Echo Chamber: A Call to Action

That is relevant, how?

First, to address what you said: I still remember, many years later, how confusing I found Perl Monks when I first signed up here. Sure it is much easier for you to use than Stack Overflow – after all, you already have an account and you know how this site works. Stack Overflow is new to you. And if you have never encountered OpenID before, and you need it for just a single site, then it’s a huge hassle compared to a simple login form – but I have 150 passwords already so I am glad that Stack Overflow does not make me keep track of yet another one. (OpenID adoption is growing – more slowly than I would like, but it’s getting traction. Can’t happen a day too soon if you ask me. This might have been the first time you saw OpenID, but it won’t be the last.) Perl Monks is great because of the community and because of the “social design” of the site; the technical implementation is sub par.

But be that as it may, it doesn’t even matter. See, I’m not trying to talk you into going to Stack Overflow. I’m just pointing out some facts: Perl has an undeservedly terrible reputation among non-Perl programmers. Stack Overflow has attracted a generic crowd of programmers. Some of them will ask Perl questions, and some of them will answer Perl questions – mostly badly, if the rest of the non-core Perl community fora on the web are any indication. We can either accept this as the state of affairs, or we can go there and spread awareness of what we consider good practice. Of course, that means we do not get to choose where to do it – either we do it there, or we don’t, whether we like the site or not.

You don’t have any obligation, of course. It’s your decision whether you want to do anything about this. And if you decide that you want to, it’s still another decision how you want to do it – posting good Perl answers on Stack Overflow isn’t exactly the only way.

But Perl Monks vs Stack Overflow comparisons are pointless.

Makeshifts last the longest.


Comment on Re^2: Breaking Out of the Perl Echo Chamber: A Call to Action
Re^3: Breaking Out of the Perl Echo Chamber: A Call to Action
by w-ber (Hermit) on Sep 22, 2008 at 08:32 UTC
Re^3: Breaking Out of the Perl Echo Chamber: A Call to Action
by zentara (Archbishop) on Sep 22, 2008 at 12:02 UTC
    But Perl Monks vs Stack Overflow comparisons are pointless.

    Well the real test will be "will StackOverflow start showing ads for google?" , as zby alludes to.

    If they do, then all we are doing by answering questions there, is helping a startup. SlackOverflow may just need to reach that magical hit number where Google ads can be offered. There already are a bunch of "get answers" sites, that are blatantly mercenary...... I hate the ruse they use where they break up a simple answer into multiple pages, so you are forced to look at more ads.

    And w-ber's observations about OpenID, at Re^3: Breaking Out of the Perl Echo Chamber: A Call to Action are enough to dissuade me from it.

    On second thought, maybe I'll get me a fake OpenID, and will post some answers there, with links to Perlmonks as answers. ha ha :-)


    I'm not really a human, but I play one on earth Remember How Lucky You Are

      There already are a bunch of “get answers” sites, that are blatantly mercenary…… I hate the ruse they use where they break up a simple answer into multiple pages, so you are forced to look at more ads.

      Err. Yes. Hence Stack Overflow. The fact that these sites suck was the motivation behind it. (I linked the post from my original post; did you read it?) I’m not sure who you are trying to convince of what.

      Maybe I’ll get me a fake OpenID, and will post some answers there, with links to Perlmonks as answers. ha ha :-)

      If your intent is to annoy Stack Overflow users rather than help them, please do the Perl community a favour and stay away.

      Makeshifts last the longest.

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