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Help me with my essay/talk on programming?

by Cody Pendant (Prior)
on Feb 03, 2009 at 23:27 UTC ( #741138=perlquestion: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??
Cody Pendant has asked for the wisdom of the Perl Monks concerning the following question:

I've written a short talk on programming languages, intended not for a programming audience, but for an audience interested in languages, who'll be thinking about "does a programming language have verbs/nouns?" and so on.

I don't want to post my first draft publicly, but would anyone like to read it and tell me if I've made a complete fool of myself?

Your motivation, if you're interested, is that I've turned it into a plug for Perl by the end, and I don't want to let down the Perl community by association!

Please email me at if you'd like to help.

Nobody says perl looks like line-noise any more
kids today don't know what line-noise IS ...
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Re: Help me with my essay/talk on programming?
by Lawliet (Curate) on Feb 04, 2009 at 00:03 UTC

    Well, I am interested in reading it but I'll wait for the final draft. (Unless, of course, you feel like /msg'ing me with a link to it.)

    And you didn't even know bears could type.

Re: Help me with my essay/talk on programming?
by NateTut (Deacon) on Feb 04, 2009 at 15:17 UTC
    One comparison that I'd suggest is the creativity of both programming languages (especially Perl) and human only languages. Just look at all the creative obfuscated posts, Perl poems, song lyrics written in Perl, not to mention all the creativity that happens daily in normal coding. Sometimes the "laity" think of programming as dull, boring and as far from creative as it gets. If they only knew how wrong they are.
Re: Help me with my essay/talk on programming?
by Anonymous Monk on Feb 04, 2009 at 14:30 UTC
    Perl, not so much a language as a culture. Culture, medium used to grow bacteria. Verbs - bind, chomp, chop, pop, push, shift, splice, open, rename, die, m/ /, &doSomething( ) etc. Nouns - $variable, $objectRef etc. Colloquialisms/synonyms - $_ @_ $0 $! etc. Conjunctions - if, and, or &&, || etc. adjectives - eq, ne etc. Making a coherent sentence or talk from the above double dutch, could be fun, but I haven't got time sorry.

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[Corion]: Their older sister just started piano but has been interested in drumming, which she should be able to start with 8 years or so)
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