Re: Who pays Larry Wall?
by halfcountplus (Hermit) on Oct 22, 2010 at 01:26 UTC
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Someone told me that Larry a) moonlights as a moustache model, and b) has his own line of Hawaiian shirts.
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Re: Who pays Larry Wall?
by chromatic (Archbishop) on Oct 22, 2010 at 01:57 UTC
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Is there any institution that funds Larry Wall's effort to develop Perl 6?
No; Larry has a day job just like the rest of us.
I held the believe that his Perl 6 efforts would be funded by grants from the Perl Foundation...
TPF has a modest amount of money for small, focused grants to develop Perl 6, but they're insufficient to support even one full time developer.
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Larry has a day job just like the rest of us.
I don't have a day job, you insensitive clod!
(This whimsical but fortunately veracity-challenged statement brought to you by a Stuffed Tiger and the days when Slashdot was still fun.)
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Perl 6 is hugely understaffed, low funded, slow progressing project. And this isn't very motivating to read.
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Re: Who pays Larry Wall?
by mojotoad (Monsignor) on Oct 22, 2010 at 03:12 UTC
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I can't guarantee this is true, but here's the scuttlebutt:
I heard that Larry is paid via cannisters of cash lobbed through time by future Perl 6 developers.
Also, if he needs to, he can survive off of residuals from his mustache.
Cheers,
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Clearly you've never visited the Junior Museum and Zoo
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Re: Who pays Larry Wall?
by ambrus (Abbot) on Oct 22, 2010 at 08:53 UTC
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Re: Who pays Larry Wall?
by moritz (Cardinal) on Oct 22, 2010 at 11:15 UTC
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Is there any institution that funds Larry Wall's effort to develop Perl 6?
The TPF has received a generous donation of USD 200K from Ian Hague, and uses that to fund some Perl 6 activities.
People can submit grant requests that "advance the completion of a Perl 6 implementation". Some previous grants have included specification work that was required to actually implement something.
So while TimToady might be eligible to apply for such a grant (especially for his work on the standard grammar, which is part of some implementations, and important template for others), to the best of my knowledge he hasn't done so.
So in summary, nobody pays him for his Perl 6 work - he does in his "copious free time" (to quote Tom Lehrer).
Others occasionally apply for grants, but nobody is anywhere near having Perl 6 development as full time job.
Perl 6 - links to (nearly) everything that is Perl 6.
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Re: Who pays Larry Wall?
by sundialsvc4 (Abbot) on Oct 22, 2010 at 01:01 UTC
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Re: Who pays Larry Wall?
by bart (Canon) on Oct 22, 2010 at 11:27 UTC
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Yeah, he worked as a studio musician too, early in his career.
The highlight was supporting the Carpenters in
Ticket to Ride (youtube).
You can clearly see Larry on the far left, singing harmonies and playing
acoustic guitar at the 2:11 mark and 2:21 mark.
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Re: Who pays Larry Wall?
by eyepopslikeamosquito (Archbishop) on Oct 23, 2010 at 22:48 UTC
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From this recent Big Think Interview with Larry Wall (August 9, 2010):
Question: Have you made any money from Perl?
Larry Wall: Well, that depends on how you define it. I get a few book royalties, but it's not really enough to make a living.
I have received a few grants over my life, but that's also not enough to make a living. I would say that the real way in which
I have benefited from Perl is the way in which many open source authors or creators benefit, and that is that some company will
be willing to hire them just to work on that. So in a sense, I have my current job because of Perl, and I am mostly expected
to work on Perl, and also advise them in things that are related to that.
But in a sense, my job is remuneration for that. They're not going to make a movie out of Perl, this notwithstanding,
so I don't expect to have a Harry Potter on my hands. But I'm comfortably well off because of Perl.
So, re time to spend on Perl 6, I'm speculating that Larry's personal
situation has improved considerably since 2005, based on this old
perl6-language mailing list thread (April 6, 2005):
Unfortunately, I don't have much time to edit synopses much these days
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No billionaires have written me into their will lately (or if they
have, they haven't pegged out yet), so for now I have to earn my
own way out of the financial hole I'm in, and that takes a lot of
time away from Perl. I'm just barely keeping up with the email,
and I'm not getting anything done on the translator. Sorry.
If you want to help, earn a billion dollars and write me into your
will. And then peg out. Nothing personal. :-)
John Macdonald, at least, was happy to oblige :-)
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 11:30:35AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
> If you want to help, earn a billion dollars and write me into your
> will. And then peg out. Nothing personal. :-)
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> Larry
Darn. So far, I'm, 0 for 3 on that plan.
However, I promise that item two will follow very shortly in
time from item one. No promises about the delay between items
two and three, though; nor any assurance of my ever achieving
item one (it's failure, in fact, is virtually assured).
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Re: Who pays Larry Wall?
by Your Mother (Archbishop) on Oct 22, 2010 at 04:17 UTC
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I'll tell you who pays him. I pay him!! And I've seen neither "protection" nor the negatives which cost me a second mortgage, for the love of bit-shifting!
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Re: Who pays Larry Wall?
by Anonymous Monk on Oct 22, 2010 at 02:15 UTC
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Larry doesn't draw a salary, but he is fed and housed by Junior Museum and Zoo, next to the bobcat exibit | [reply] [Watch: Dir/Any] |
Re: Who pays Larry Wall?
by zentara (Archbishop) on Oct 22, 2010 at 12:31 UTC
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He will get his rewards in Heaven..... ( or Hell, depending on how well Perl6 works :-) )
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