note footpad Hm. You may be right, there may have been a few replies that could've been handled a little more diplomatically. However, this isn't the first time the subject has come up: <UL> <LI>[id://19539] and [id://19549]</LI> <LI>[id://45958] (note the replies, especially [tilly]'s)</LI> <LI>[id://60997]</LI> <LI>[id://73653]</LI> <LI>[id://74314]</LI> <LI>[id://98596] (which has a very nice summary at the end)</LI> <LI>[id://149675]</LI> <LI>[id://171968]</LI> </UL> There are, of course, several other nodes that I could have linked to. However, I feel these provide a good overview of the basic ideals of the place and how previous conversations along those lines have gone. You may note I sorted then by ID, which means they appear pretty much sorted by post date. I find it interesting that certain themes are echoed in each of them. BTW, if anyone hasn't seen these threads already (or re-read them in some time), I recommend taking a few moments with them. There's a bit of static in a few of the replies, but the basic ideals are pretty easy to discern. Now, if anyone feels the need to confess, [id://110224|feel free]... --f P.S. I'm sorry you felt the need to post anonymously; the sentiments you expressed are worth taking a stand for. 178972 178972