note ehdonhon [cpan://File::Find] has a neat utility called 'find2perl'. Take a few minutes to learn that, and it will write 90% of your script for you. <P><font size='-1'><b>update</b></font> I missed the part about using Perl 4 when I read your post the first time. If the [cpan://File::Find] module is out, then how about just opening a pipe from the "find" command? 295191 295191