note footpad [tilly], <P>I'm not sure I read that the same way you may have. I thought [tye] was sharing some of the tricks learned while working with the language. While it's possible to interpret some moral judgements (to borrow a phrase elsewhere in the thread) from the post, I don't see anything specifically suggesting that you or [merlyn] are taking positions from ignorance.</P> <P>Perhaps that's my own judgement peering through.</P> <P>Regardless, it may be worthwhile to borrow a another concept from the monastic disciplines that inspired this site. Specifically, each travels their own path toward mastery.</P> <P>I don't use debuggers personally for many of the reasons cited in both camps. However, I do use them when necessary. They can be effective tools, but they should not be the only tool in your problem solving arsenal.</P> <P>In the end, we make choices by bringing our experience, knowledge, and creativity to bear on the problem at hand. Even bad choices can help illuminate the path.</P> <i>--f</i> 48474 48621