note ysth I'm pretty sure that works the same way <c> my $i = 13 if $expr; </c> does, and is not to be trusted to continue to do what you mean. <p> No, maybe I'm wrong. Hmm. <p> Update: as long as you don't modify $start or $end except in cases where they were already set, I think you can count on this continuing to work, even if the my $foo if bar thing is "fixed". But I'd expect that if a warning is added for the my $foo if bar thing, that you'd get the warning with your code also. 525392 525583