note Albannach That reminds me of something a senior engineer told me about 20 years ago on the topic of estimating effort: double your first number and go the the next larger unit. So if your first reaction is 30 seconds, better say 60 minutes. Four hours is more likely to be 8 days, and so on. I'm still crap at estimating individual task effort, but I'm much better at total project cost at least. <!-- Node text goes above. Div tags should contain sig only --> <div class="pmsig"><div class="pmsig-33341"> <p>--<br> I'd like to be able to assign to an luser </div></div> 882430 882455