note LanX IIRC, O'Reilly registered the trademark of the Camel as a symbol for Perl. ¹<P> So you will need to ask them, too. <P> <!-- Node text goes above. Div tags should contain sig only --> <div class="pmsig"><div class="pmsig-708738"> <p>Cheers Rolf </div></div><P> ¹) That's why the Perl Foundation uses the Onion. 45213 953325