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Not Able to View all the replies on the same page as that off the thread
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by slayedbylucifer
on Mar 29, 2013 at 02:31

    Hello Monks.

    This question is related to the perlmonk website usage.

    The questions I have is when I am viewing any thread, I can see only up to 3 replies on the same as that of the thread. Any other replies beyond 3 replies, I need to open it in new tab/windows to read it. How to display the replies beyond “Re^3” on the page as that off the thread and not opening a new tab/window?

    e.g.:

    Check this thread: Curious find while comparing grep, map, and smart match...

    Scroll down half way through and you will find a lot conversation between users "dbuckhal", "BrowserUk".

    The replies went upto "Re^10".

    However, I can views only up to reply Re^3. And for further replies, I need to open that particular reply in a new tab/window to read the response.

    I have increased the reply depth as well as tried different browsers but it is still the same.

    I can view the detailed reply response only up to "Re^3" for any thread and anything after that, I need to open it in a new tab.

    Thanks.

Spam filter?
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by LanX
on Mar 26, 2013 at 21:57
    Hi

    maybe it's worth considering to auto-reap postings according to certain filter criterias.

    Like 'lou'.'bou'.'tin' in title (intentionally scrambled)

    Supposed it's possible to unreap false positives again...

    Cheers Rolf

    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language)

Progression Malaise
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by space_monk
on Mar 25, 2013 at 18:21
    Dear fellow Monks,

    I joined this site several years ago, but mainly to absorb the wisdom of the monks and I did not contribute or vote much. As a result I remained humbly in the lower orders until about 6 or 7 months ago when I decided to put in some effort to contribute to the Prayers and Offerings, which resulted in my promotion to the exalted rank of Friar.

    However, since then I seem to have lost my fiery desire to race to Sainthood, and therefore whilst I contribute occassionally, my progress to Hermit seems to have slowed.

    Have you experienced the same loss of interest in your progress, and did you necessarily regard it as a bad thing? Should a Monk be competitive about wanting to be promoted?

    I humbly await your thoughts on the issue.....

    A Monk aims to give answers to those who have none, and to learn from those who know more.
Strange message in chatterbox
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by McA
on Mar 25, 2013 at 10:16

    Hi all,

    Currently I have the following message in my chatterbox:

    root says root just sends automated notices, but you tried to reply "" to it.
    Please, what does this mean?

    McA

What do you think about "Thank you"-nodes?
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by McA
on Mar 22, 2013 at 05:44

    Hi Monks,

    I had some questions in the past, which were answered fast and helpfully for me. Really great. That's the reason why I take the time to answer other questions as good as I can. I want to give something back as I don't like to have outstanding dept. (Yes, yes, I'm sure I'll never pay back the whole dept of using the Perl ecosystem ;-) )

    When I answer a question I'm really interested in feedback: Whether it was read or hopefully helped to solve the problem. That's the reason why I regularly write - let's call it - "Thank-you-nodes".

    Now I want to hear your opinion: These nodes don't have any Perl related information. The "only" information they have is valuable to the one who was so kind to take his time helping me.

    Do you feel disturbed by these "Thank-you-nodes"? Do you think pressing ++ commentless is enough?

    McA

Perlmonks as feedback medium for perl videos?
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by LanX
on Mar 19, 2013 at 14:59
    Hi

    At the moment I'm fixing the last YAPC-EU Frankfurt 2012 videos on youtube which lost sound during upload.

    Now I'm pondering about disabling the comment function on youtube and linking to a new monastery thread for each video. (or subthread)

    The idea is to have a compact cross linking between medias and better promotion.

    Additionally youtube isn't the only possibility to provide videos, we still have the server from uni Frankfurt and I suppose shadowcat is also mirroring them.

    So a monastery thread could be included in a frame from a dedicated page embedding the video.

    (The only downside I see is that we have no mail-forwarding like youtube has...)

    What do you think?

    Cheers Rolf

    ( addicted to the Perl Programming Language)

Once again ... is it time to get rid of the Anonymous Monk?
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by sundialsvc4
on Mar 18, 2013 at 09:40

    Perlmonks is unique among all sites that I know, in that it is possible to post anonymously.   It’s also my recollection (from 2,500 posts and 7 years ago, so I’m a little fuzzy on this) that the authentication is also weak ... do we in fact send an e-mail to an e-mail of record, and, having done so, do we ever send it again?).

    Anyhow ... the reason why I ask is that lately we’ve seen that our Anonymous Friend is getting a lot of flack, e.g. the sixth reply in When cpan returns the dreaded "won't install without force" which links to Re^3: Updating Config.pm and so on.   (All of which, for the curious, is not me ... but my jaw dropped anyway.)   All of this makes me wonder whether Anonymous (the monk, not the mask) needs to go bye-bye for good.   I think so.

    For one thing, I think that it should be pointed-out that “Anonymity” is very often accidental ... a session can vanish while you are writing or simply vanish, period.   Also, since we do not require it, many folks do not seem to take the time.   Okay, they just don’t.   I do not think that, at least in the majority of cases, anyone is trying to avoid attribution or to guard their own XP.   Okay, I simply don’t choose to entertain that notion on behalf of anyone else.   Yet we certainly must consider the very real chance of misattribution.   This is social networking at its oldest and finest, and even though the dynamics of any hallowed place of contemplation might sometimes lead to a fight, it might also lead to a chalice of wine being spitefully poured on the head of someone who had nothing to do with whatever-it-was.   (When the right thing to have done with the wine would have been to get jush a littul bit tipshee ...)

    Therefore, maybe it’s time to update the technology of the site.   (Just a little... please don’t panic, vroom...)

    Let’s take a well-known site like The Huffington Post, a media site which coincidentally and AFAIK is driven by Movable Type™, also a Perl-based platform.   The site wants to encourage spontaneity, so you can write a response right away.   But in order to post it, you must log in.   Then, the posting appears.

    Perlmonks, on the other hand, does not.   The posting is anonymous.   Furthermore, if for any reason your session “simply disappears,” your posting will appear as anonymous.   You are no longer logged-in, but you might not even know it.   Also, since the posting is now owned by Anonymous Monk, which BTW is the parking-place for over 73,000 writeups, you can’t edit your own words.   And if you do log-in, your posting in progress is probably lost.

    We’ve talked about this before ... and I submit that it is high time to do it.   All postings should be attributable to someone.   E-mail addresses should be subject to some kind of cleanup and re-verification, without which the ability to post is suspended.   These are basics of most other sites, and they all seem to work well enough.

    I think that we should do this now, because personalities often are touchy here, and opinions are even stronger.   We’re supposed to be communing about Perl and not talking about one another, but the reality of social networking is always what it is.   The information-quality and/or social-quality of the interactions might be being harmed by anonymity even when it happens by accident or convenience.

Donation page (almost) out of date
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by igelkott
on Mar 18, 2013 at 08:36

    The Offering Plate refers to an apparently deprecated donation site. Still seems to be active but should perhaps update the link in "Click here to donate" to the new donation system.

Improve Perl's marketing position by making Perlmonks more discoverable for automated "popularity contests"
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by mithaldu
on Mar 15, 2013 at 13:17
    I would like to see the following change done:

    * add "perl programming language" to every single page of perlmonks

    My proposed way of doing this would be to simply add the sentence "Built with/in the Perl programming language."

    Where do i sent patches and/or whom do i have to talk to to make this happen?

    The reason behind this is slightly complicated and merits an in-depth explanation for which i currently lack the time. However, in short: The TIOBE index, flawed as it is, follows an algorithm in its methodology. This means that currently it is unaware of roughly 2 million results in its search for both google hits and blog posts relating to Perl, but can be made aware of them. Adding that simple sentence to the perlmonks base template will have a considerable impact on Perls standing in that index and prevent future "perl is dying" articles by mouse-click-hungry journalists with nary a clue or scruple.

    If you have questions or requests for clarifications, please ask, and i will happily answer and explain in greater detail in the coming days.



    Edit: I see it has been added, thanks a lot to jdporter who did the work. :)
Monkday? Cool!
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by RMGir
on Mar 15, 2013 at 08:14
    My chatterbox told me this morning:

    "Happy Monkday!! You've been here 11 invigorating years. We are always the same age inside. Gertrude Stein"

    Hahaha.... How long has this feature been around? Did I just not happen to pop in on March 15th for the last 10 years?

    Edit: Turns out according to Re: "Happy MonkDay" notice this has been around since 2006. Wow!


    Mike
how to quickly find my own thread?
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by littlewenwen
on Mar 14, 2013 at 22:08

    Hello, All

    I am a new member here and I found it difficult to locate my own posted thread. For example: I started my thread; then I navigate to other websites; after a while, when I return to perlmonks to see the replies to my post, I couldn't easily locate my started thread!

    Is there an efficient way to QUICKLY locate my own thread? Thanks

Login issues
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by Anonymous Monk
on Feb 07, 2013 at 23:30
    Hey, I seem to have lost my password and I'm not getting the email to reset it. I am jimbus and my email should either be jimbus-at-usa-dot-com or jim-at-thebabcocks-dot-net.

    Obviously, I'm looking for help and not to have this posted in SoPW :)

    Thanks,

    JimB

Refreshing Recent Active Thread Page
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by vinoth.ree
on Feb 06, 2013 at 00:14
    Hi Monks!

    Excuse me. if something is wrong with this node.This my first post here.

    I am refreshing perlmonk's, Recently Active Threads page every time to get update on that page, to get new questions or reply for the existing questions? Why it does not automatically refreshed for particular time period?

Kill your "Comment" before you post since it's incorrect?
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by flexvault
on Feb 04, 2013 at 07:50

    Dear Monks,

    Is there a proper way to gracefully kill your "Comment" before you post it, since after working on it, you realize your comment(solution) would be incorrect or doesn't really answer the post. I know that if I post(create) it, then I shouldn't delete, just update it.

    I just had this happen(again), and I'm wondering if there is a proper way to free the PM resource?

    Thank you

    "Well done is better than well said." - Benjamin Franklin

Free Nodelet Hack: "No-LogOut-Links" - Fix links to other PM-domains
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by LanX
on Jan 20, 2013 at 08:45
    Dear fellow monks,

    (in continuation of Re: Perlmonks 'Not logged in Error' - Proposal for fix and Re^2: Perlmonks 'Not logged in Error' - Proposal for fix (autocorrect perlmonks linking shortcuts in preview ))

    If you bother about people posting hardcoded links to other PM-domains which result in "logging you out", you can fix that with this nodelet hack:

    <!-- sample hard-link to be fixed, only for testing --> [http://www.perlmonks.com|www.perlmonks.com] <script><!-- /* No Log-Out Links Redirect links to other perlmonk domains to current one */ (function (do_log,do_test){ var log = function (html){ if (do_log) document.writeln(html); }; var fixes=''; if (do_test){ document.links[3].hostname='www.perlmonks.com'; document.links[4].hostname='www.perlmonks.org'; document.links[5].hostname='perlmonks.net'; } var doc_host=document.location.hostname; for (var i in document.links) { var link_host = document.links[i].hostname; if ( link_host && link_host != doc_host && link_host.match(/^(www\.)?perlmonks.(org|net|com)$/) ) { fixes += '<li> #'+i+' was '+link_host+'</li>\n'; document.links[i].hostname = doc_host; } } if (fixes) { log('<h5>Fixing hostnames of PM links</h5><small><ol>'); log(fixes); log('</ol></small>'); } })(true,false); --></script>

    Paste the above code into Free Nodelet Settings and submit it.

    You need to activate the Free Nodelet in Nodelet Settings and don't forget other Nodelets you still need.

    Only tested with Firefox so far, please report for other browsers.

    Cheers Rolf

    UPDATE

    fixed indentation


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