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Re^12: Time::HiRes sleep does not always work

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on Aug 21, 2008 at 12:49 UTC ( #705780=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


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You knew this was coming, with a setup like that...:-)

Yup! :)

And don't give me that argument that non-geeks can't do linux....it's just as easy as Windows, and installing is very easy nowadays.

But with windows they don't have to install. And yes, there are OEMs that will preinstall some flavour of Linux. So why is the take up so low?

The first part of the problem is:

2X, 64 Studio, Absolute, AbulÉdu, ADIOS, Alinex, AliXe, ALT, Ankur Bangla, AnNyung, Arch, ArcheOS, Archie, Ark, ArtistX, AsianLinux, Asianux, ASLinux, ASPLinux, Astaro, Aurora, AUSTRUMI, B2D, BackTrack, Bayanihan, BeaFanatIX, BeleniX, Berry, Big Linux, BinToo, BioBrew, blackPanther, BLAG, Bluewhite64, BOSS, BU Linux, Burapha, Caixa Mágica, cAos, Càtix, CCux, CDlinux, Censornet, CentOS, ClarkConnect, Clonezilla, Clusterix, clusterKNOPPIX, Co-Create, College, Comfusion, Condorux, Coyote, CRUX, Damn Small, DANIX, DARKSTAR, Debian, Deep-Water, DeLi, DesktopBSD, Devil, Dizinha, DNALinux, Draco, DragonFly, Dreamlinux, dyne:bolic, Dzongkha, eAR OS, easys, eduKnoppix, EduLinux, Ehad, Ekaaty, eLearnix, Elive, elpicx, ELX, Endian, EnGarde, Epidemic, ERPOSS, Euronode, Everest, Evinux, EzPlanet One, Famelix, FaunOS, Fedora, Fermi, Finnix, Fluxbuntu, Foresight, FreeBSD, Freedows, Freeduc, FreeNAS, FreeSBIE, Freespire, Frenzy, Frugalware, FTOSX, GeeXboX, Gelecek, Gentoo, GentooTH, Gentoox, GEOLivre, Gibraltar, gNewSense, GNIX, gnuLinEx, GNUstep, GoblinX, GoboLinux, gOS, GParted, Grafpup, Granular, Greenie, grml, Guadalinex, Haansoft, Hacao, Helix, Hiweed, Honeywall, How-Tux, IDMS, Impi, IndLinux, Inquisitor, INSERT, Insigne, IPCop, JackLab, JoLinux, Julex, K12LTSP, Kaella, Kalango, KANOTIX, Karamad, Karoshi, KateOS, K-DEMar, Kiwi, Knoppel, Knopperdisk, KNOPPIX, KnoppMyth, KnoSciences, Komodo, Kubuntu, Kurumin, Kwort, L.A.S., LFS, LG3D, LinnexOS, Linpus, LinuxConsole, Linux-EduCD, linuX-gamers, Linux+ Live, LinuxTLE, Linux XP, Litrix, LiveCD Router, LiVux, LliureX, Loco, Lunar, m0n0wall, Magic, Mandriva, MAX, Mayix, Media Lab, MEPIS, MidnightBSD, MilaX, Mint, Miracle, MirOS, MoLinux, Momonga, Morphix, Muriqui, Murix, Musix, Mutagenix, Myah OS, myLinux, Myrinix, Mythbuntu, MythDora, Nature's, NeoShine, NepaLinux, NetBSD, NetSecL, Nexenta, Niigata, NimbleX, Nitix, Nonux, Novell SLE, NST, nUbuntu, NuxOne, Olive, OliveBSD, OLPC, Omoikane, O-Net, OpenBSD, Openfiler, OpenGEU, OpenLab, OpenLX, openmamba, OpenNA, OpenSolaris, openSUSE, Openwall, Ophcrack, Oracle, PAIPIX, paldo, PapugLinux, Pardus, Parsix, Parted Magic, PC-BSD, PCLinuxOS, PelicanHPC, Penguin Sleuth, Pentoo, pfSense, Pie Box, Pilot, Pingo, Pingwinek, Pioneer, Plamo, PLD, Poseidon, pQui, Protech, PUD, Puppy, QiLinux, Rails Live, RAYS, Red Flag, Red Hat, redWall, Resulinux, RIPLinuX, ROCK, Rocks Cluster, RoFreeSBIE, ROSLIMS, rPath, RUNT, Sabayon, SAM, SaxenOS, SchilliX, Scientific, Securepoint, Shift, sidux, Skolelinux, Slackintosh, Slackware, Slamd64, SLAMPP, Slax, SliTaz, SME Server, SmoothWall, SoL, Solaris, Sorcerer, Source Mage, StartCom, STD, StressLinux, STUX, SuliX, SuperGamer, Swecha, Symphony OS, SystemRescue, T2, TA-Linux, TEENpup, TFM, Thinstation, Thisk, Tilix, TinyMe, tinysofa, Topologilinux, Trinity, Trisquel, trixbox, TrueBSD, Truva, TumiX, TupiServer, Tuquito, Turbolinux, Ubuntu, UbuntuME, Ubuntu Studio, Ufficio Zero, UHU-Linux, Ulteo, Ultima, Ultimate, Untangle, Userful, Ututo, Vector, Vine, Vixta.org, VMKnoppix, VNLinux, Voltalinux, Vyatta, Wazobia, Webconverger, White Box, WIENUX, Wolvix, Xandros, X-Evian, Xfld, X/OS, Xteam, Xubuntu, Yellow Dog, Yoper, Zenwalk, ZoneCD...

And that's without really trying.

If the geeks can't decide on what Linux is or should be, how do you expect nanny to?

Another part is all those incompatible application installation tools: APT, DEB, RPM, Portage, pkgtools, URPMI, SMART, YUM, YaST...

Then there are the forks, instabilities and developer infighting...


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In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.


Comment on Re^12: Time::HiRes sleep does not always work
Re^13: Time::HiRes sleep does not always work
by zentara (Archbishop) on Aug 21, 2008 at 16:33 UTC
    I'm sure Walmart would love a government a contract to supply the military with pre-installed linux laptops. They all would get a certain set of programs, depending on their standardized needs. They would have a central server, (like Lindows used), to provide updates and new programs if authorized. Login via https, enter your passwords, and get a tgz package. They could even have a Perl script to auto-install the tgz. Military computers shouldn't be open to their users installing anything they want, so the red herring of all those linux programs available confusing soldiers, is moot. They don't install or upgrade unless ordered to, and then only from the special server.

    Let me ask you..... if you had your own military, would you tell them to use Windows? You probably would choose a specially designed distro, based on Security Enhanced Linux The desktop would be a very simple menu system, with standard icons for map reading/writing, photo/video shooting, connections to radar display, howto's for various weapons, and 1 click ammo ordering. :-)

    But, there is also the problem of the intelligence of the military, so linux may not benefit them in terms of security...... the general would probably proclaim that all root passwords be set to the name of his dog, to ensure that all laptops be accessible by any soldier. But even if that occurred, at least there would be no viruses spreading.


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OT, was Re^13: Time::HiRes sleep does not always work
by tirwhan (Abbot) on Aug 22, 2008 at 02:19 UTC

    Oh please! I've been working with Linux professionally for almost a decade now and think I've kept pretty much on top of the interesting distributions out there. I haven't even heard of less more than a percent of the names you mention and many of the names you list (OpenBSD, FreeBSD, GNUstep, OpenSolaris) are as much Linux as Windows is a BSD-ripoff. Just where did you conjure that list from?

    And that's without really trying.

    Maybe you should have tried.

    If "nanny" wants to decide which Linux distribution she wants to use she's got about a half-dozen good candidates to choose from, and the decision should be a lot easier than choosing between preinstalled XP and Vista (one will run the software I want to use, the other will work on the hardware I just bought...).

    I'm no apologist for MS...

    Yeah right.


    All dogma is stupid.
      I've been working with Linux professionally for almost a decade now and think I've kept pretty much on top of the interesting distributions out there. I haven't even heard of less more than a percent of the names you mention

      Well. I guess you aren't the expert that you think you are. Every single one of those is a freely available, downloadable, current, *nix-like distribution. If you do not believe me, then go to google and type in "Linux XXXX download" and follow the links.

      The fact that you, a self-proclaimed expert haven't heard of them doesn't mean they don't exist, or that they aren't worthy of consideration. And petty distinctions that half a dozen of the aren't "linux" distributions doesn't dilute the point at all.

      Maybe you should have tried.

      If I had tried, that list would have been two or three times longer. Most of those distribution are available in LiveCD, "normal", "enterprise" and any number of other variants.

      If "nanny" wants to decide which Linux distribution she wants to use she's got about a half-dozen good candidates to choose from

      Fine. Your 3 part challenge, should you choose to accept it (which I know full well you won't), is:

      1. Go through that list above, and justify why each is not worthy of consideration until you arrive at your mythical "half-dozen" remaining.
      2. Construct the decision tree that "nanny" should use to chose between that half-dozen.
      3. And now the toughy: Get 10 acknowledged *nix experts to agree with your choices.

      I eagerly await the results of your research and expertise should you choose to accept this challenge.

      But either way, before you respond, please try to raise the Level of Disagreement above say, DH4, because, as my tagline notes; In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

      Update: In other words: You dismiss the 99% (along with all their hardworking, selfless OSS developers and user base) that you haven't heard of, in favour of the 1% you have heard of, on the basis of what criteria?


      Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
      "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
      In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

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