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PerlMonks Server Move

by nate (Monk)
on Jan 28, 2002 at 23:32 UTC ( #142164=monkdiscuss: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

Tuesday, January 29 the current Perlmonks server is going away -- we will be moving the site over sometime today (Monday,28) so that we have some time to redirect to the new server.

Our new digs at PAIR aren't quite ready yet -- we have mod_perl, but apache seg faults when the DBD::mysql connects. This may take some time to resolve since we only have user-level access and have to play email tag on debugging the problem.

In the meantime, we will be moving to another Blockstackers server -- which means there's going to be stuff that breaks, and very likely the site will be slow(er) until we can get the Pair.com Perlmonks install up and happy.

update: 1-28-02 2:43 PST We seem to have our DBD::mysql problems worked out -- so we will be moving to managed hosting with Pair.com.

If you encounter server errors, please email <vroom@blockstackers.com> and <nate@blockstackers.com> and one of us will try and get to it.

If, after Tuesday, you cannot reach the Perlmonks.org domain because of DNS lag, try going to moving.perlmonks.org -- we will have information on our moving status. I will also try and keep the people in #perlmonks updated.

Thank you for your patience,

UPDATE 1:10 am Tues 29 -- We're not outta the woods yet. Moving over to Pair failed (mysql kept dying) -- so we're running on a backup server. I apologize for the slow load times. We're workin' to fix.

UPDATE 12:30pm Weds 30 PST -- We're still having problems with the Pair set up, so we're trying to create a makeshift solution using a bunch of old Pentium IIs. Hang in there.

Update 3:30pm Weds -- Hooray, we're at pair!!! I'll be looking into performance issues ASAP

--nate

Comment on PerlMonks Server Move
Re: PerlMonks Server Move
by Masem (Monsignor) on Jan 31, 2002 at 16:01 UTC
    I think it goes without saying that all of us non-Godly monks appriciate the work that nate and vroom have put in to getting this move going and working right, despite the problems with migration and MySQL. Judging by responses in #perlmonks and elsewhere, I think most people were calm and understood all the possible Murphy's Law failures that seemed to occur, and some actually got up and went *gasp* outside with a lack of PM over the last day :-).

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Re: PerlMonks Server Move
by elbie (Deacon) on Feb 01, 2002 at 16:02 UTC
    Just to add my two cents, I really appreciate the status updates. I've been to far too many websites that don't give any notice of server issues/maintenance. Keep up the great work!

    elbieelbieelbie

Hot Damn!!!
by Rex(Wrecks) (Curate) on Feb 02, 2002 at 00:14 UTC
    Bigger, badder and FASTER!!! Wow, this was definatly worth the downtime. The site is much faster and therefore the end result for me is better :)

    Great work guys!

    "Nothing is sure but death and taxes" I say combine the two and its death to all taxes!
Re: PerlMonks Server Move
by beebware (Pilgrim) on Feb 02, 2002 at 00:32 UTC
    I think it was just a conspiracy plot to stop me reading Perl Monks. I've been a member for just over a week now and was just really getting into it when the server move happened, Perl Monks then started becoming available again (via the links from Slashdot to a holding page to the proper page) when my works 26Mbps link to the Internet went down for 2 days solid (mucho compensation claim in works). Co-incidence or does the Perl Monks system just hate me? (insert X-fileish paranoid music here)
Re: PerlMonks Server Move
by VSarkiss (Monsignor) on Feb 03, 2002 at 02:07 UTC

    First, a big thank-you to you and vroom for all the work, and also for taking the time to keep everyone informed.

    In that same vein, would you be willing to write up a more detailed node, tentatively titled "Lessons Learned from the Server Move"? I'm thinking about bringing up a site based on Everything, and information about your experience would be invaluable. I realize it may be too late now -- you're done, glad it's over, don't want to relive the pain ;-). But if you have notes on what happened, personally I'd be very interested in reading more detail. I'm sure there are others who would be interested also.

    Once again, thanks for all the effort.

Re: PerlMonks Server Move
by jonjacobmoon (Pilgrim) on Feb 03, 2002 at 02:32 UTC
    I have echo the sentiment of how much I appreciate the work that has been done on the site. It rocks as always, but now it is faster :)

    One issue: I have seen the reputation on my latest node increase with a coresponding increase in my XP. Just thought you should know.


    I admit it, I am Paco.
Poor performance in Europe
by hackmare (Pilgrim) on Feb 05, 2002 at 11:29 UTC

    I am not sure what is causing this, but the refresh rate has gone up to 20-30 seconds for me from Switzerland. I asked around the Chatterbox and virtualsue report that performance is down for her too. Refresh time used to be 5-10 sec.

    When I go to pair.com , they come up right away, but the perlmonks site is really sluggish at all hours of the day, from work, from home on cable, and from 56k modem. Something seems to be messed up. The time for this page to appear again on preview was 20 sec.

    It is possible that this is transient, but the performance seems to have settled in.

    I have not had a chance to run an iproute test to see what the hops are.

    I guess you're still working out the bugs so I'll wait a while longer to see if it gets better - Jsut thought you might want to hear back.

    I'll keep an eye on performance and report again later.

    -hackmare.

      I am not sure what is causing this, but the refresh rate has gone up to 20-30 seconds for me from Switzerland.

      No reasons for Europeans to feel singled out. I'm getting 20+ second refreshes in California.

      I don't think its the network:

      1 fa1-0.cr1.ch.core.rtr.uk.netscalibur.net (195.157.2.126) 0.518 ms + 0.442 ms 0.421 ms 2 fa4-0.gw4.th.rtr.uk.netscalibur.net (195.157.0.82) 3.741 ms 1.44 +6 ms 0.661 ms 3 fa1-7.br1.th.rtr.uk.netscalibur.net (195.157.0.33) 3.822 ms 1.24 +3 ms 0.859 ms 4 london10.bb.netscalibur.net (212.6.226.1) 3.722 ms 2.254 ms 0.6 +47 ms 5 frankfurt10.bb.netscalibur.net (212.6.224.41) 12.540 ms 12.575 m +s 12.175 ms 6 so-1-3-1.ar2.FRA2.gblx.net (62.16.33.41) 12.810 ms 12.702 ms 12 +.842 ms 7 so2-1-0-622M.cr2.FRA2.gblx.net (62.16.32.77) 13.298 ms 12.465 ms + 13.145 ms 8 pos1-0-622M.cr2.CLE1.gblx.net (206.132.111.118) 108.803 ms 109.6 +33 ms 109.085 ms 9 so-7-0-0-622M.ar2.CLE1.gblx.net (206.132.111.162) 112.216 ms 109 +.188 ms 109.332 ms 10 PairNetworks.t3-1-0-0.ar2.CLE1.gblx.net (64.211.111.110) 111.681 +ms 112.900 ms 112.222 ms 11 ads.perlmonks.org (66.39.54.27) 111.904 ms 113.736 ms 111.961 m +s

      The slowest part there is likely to be between me and the first router :)

      /J\

        I'm not seeing anything obviously untoward from Silicon Valley to Pittsburgh (and I'm still seeing 20+ second refreshes).

        We may be discovering what the backup schedule is for the new server. :-|

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