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a /msg for all first timers

by jptxs (Curate)
on Nov 27, 2000 at 02:48 UTC ( #43413=monkdiscuss: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

I've noticed an increase in the use of the CB as a means to get help. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I think that we're seeing a lot of IRC crossovers who are just trying to get help straight away in the CB and not even posting. If you've been in the CB with me when this has happened, doubtless you've seen me go through a little dance telling them to post in SOPW with sample code, input, desired/real ouput, errors and explanations. What I was thinking was maybe we could have the CB, root I would guess, deliver a /msg to any new user that tells them the first thing they should try in seeking help is to post in Seekers of Perl Wisdom with all the proper stuff and also provide a link to the CB help so they know how to dismiss this /msg to. That would get them going correctly right off the bat and also maybe help guide them to reading about the site before randomly spewing calls for help into the CB. Maybe something like:

Welcome! Please read [Guide to the Monastery] before posting. Best ways to get answers: 1.[Super Search] sample code,input,output and problem in [Seekers of Perl Wisdom]. Find out how to get rid of this message [Chatterbox faq|here] : )

This will decrease CB noise, and also make sure that all solutions given to these issues are reusable. That way perhaps just searching would eliminate the problem : )

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Re: a /msg for all first timers
by ybiC (Prior) on Nov 27, 2000 at 05:22 UTC
    Could also tell new posters to *not* go to CB asking monks to look at their new SOPW, since reasoned questions are answered very quickly.
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[haukex]: Yes sorry I don't run them all the time, my POD tests are only run as author tests (and are excluded when I'm using Devel::Cover)
[Corion]: choroba: Hmm - no, I keep the snippets inline, but as my framework also has support for capturing output etc., maybe I should do the same...
[Corion]: haukex: Yes, that approach is sane, and it heals the fragility of Pod parsers in a nice way while still syntax-checking stuff
[choroba]: Unfortunately, none of it is online
[haukex]: I figured that POD tests make sense, but only as author tests
[choroba]: I mean, the slides are, but not the makefile with scripts to create them
[Corion]: haukex: I've only now arrived at that revelation ;)
[Corion]: choroba: I use spod5, which also has that support, and also implements its own kinda-make stuff
[haukex]: But that module I just linked to assumes that most verbatim blocks are runnable code, I have other modules where that's not the case, so there I just copy-and-paste the synopsis into the author tests...
[haukex]: not the most efficient, but then again, I don't have that many modules on CPAN :-)

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