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  • Giant female (6'6")
  • Vegetarian
  • Dutch, not in Amsterdam
  • Stubborn, cats, teasing, reading, movies, SF
  • Headbanging speedmetalhead: Kiss, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Annihilator, Testament, Within Temptation
  • Concerta/Ritalin-taking ADHD, sometimes nervous, often just being silly hyperactive
  • Politician, former council member, member of Dutch liberal party (yeah, a politician)
  • Radical atheist
  • Beginning writer, mostly SF
  • Love whisky and whiskey, especially Laphroaigh, Glenrothes, Gouden Carolus (Belgian!) and Lagavullin
  • Sometimes I bark at the moon, play tag or tap someone "on the other shoulder", while trying to look like an innocent lovable 50+ year old


  • 1983: Pascal (never used it outside the classroom)
  • 1986: dBase III+ and Basic (horrible, never used them outside the classroom)
  • 1987: TenCORE (amazingly good CBT development system and programming language, helped me provide for my income for over 7 years), Lisp (yegh blergh), C (did 2 $projects)
  • 1994: Perl, mostly minor work until 1997
  • 1994 etc: bits and pieces of PHP, Javas‎crip‎t, C++, not enough to be able to work with it, enough to stick with Perl

Learned the basics of Perl in 1994. For years I mostly did simple basic things with Perl like s‎crip‎ts for forms and server logs. In 1999 tried to learn more. In 2003 I tried again and even made a japh. I'll be quiet mostly, read and vote, and learn a lot. So that's what I wrote my first Meditation about: Where and how to start learning Perl. I made a Dutch translation, slightly adapted.

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[Corion]: ambrus: Yeah - we're in that situation too, except that there is no time to do the reorganizing :-/
[LanX]: ... so my boss started a project with the newest sun servers and invited the traders to come on weekend to test it... and they were so pleased, that they forced him to keep it in production...
[ambrus]: Corion: sure, this is the long-term plan. The short term is that I have to run this ungodly mess to get results from the new input data today.
[Corion]: ambrus: Most of our "automation" is tied to process exit codes and a shell pipeline :-\
[LanX]: ... a week later they realized that one of the databases - which recorded how much the other banks due to this bank - was not correctly plugged
[ambrus]: Corion: I have no problem with exit codes and shell pipeline. My problem is that the current process requires a lot of manual intervention from me, including editing the source codes.
[ambrus]: (Also a lot of manual intervention by two or three other co-workers, who do other parts of the process.)
[ambrus]: Some of the manual part is unavoidable, but not all.
[choroba]: LanX was there a way to recover the numbers from the remaining information?
[Corion]: LanX: Ow ;)

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