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Re: Insert Language Here Monks

by rchiav (Deacon)
on Jul 27, 2001 at 21:15 UTC ( #100378=note: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??


in reply to Insert Language Here Monks

I'm not going to weight in on if it's a good idea or not, but I will comment on my skepticisim in doing something like this.

First, you have to think about why PM is what it is. Is it because of the name? Doubtful. Is it because of the Everything engine? Possibly, on a lower level.

What I think has really made PM what it is, is the people here, and their passion for Perl. What is to be gained by a bunch of passionate Perl people starting JavaMonks? In my opinion, it will be Yet Another Messageboad. Will this JavaMonks site have noted authors of books on about Java? Will this site be frequented by people who have routinely contributed to the language?

If not, what's going to make it any different than whatever else is out there? I really think that something like that should be left up to those who are truly passionate about the language. If they have the preserverance to build a community like PM, then more power to them. However, the PM community trying to build a JavaMonks community would be hollow at best.

Anyway.. that's my opinion..
Rich


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Re: Re: Insert Language Here Monks
by agent00013 (Pilgrim) on Jul 27, 2001 at 21:37 UTC
    It's not really the PM community building these sites, it's people within the PM community that use other languages and have an interest in developing a site that reflects their needs and interests.

    Obviously, no inventors of Java would show up at the JavaMonks site. It is possible that we get book authors. If not this, if there are enough people contributing to the site, it can prosper. Maybe there is an inherent difference in the types of people who program Perl or Java (or any other language). I think the desire to be part of such a community would draw users of all levels to it despite what language it is. Beginners to experts. Even without the language designers and book authors, it can function and can be a benefit.
      I'm not trying to be argumenative, but my question is:

      What will be the difference between something like JavaMonks and every other java site out there?

      These sites all have code, discussion boards, etc..
      My feeling is that the community here sets this site apart, not the site itself. This community has a vast amount of knowledge and an incredible passion for Perl. What do you see replacing that for an (insert language here)Monks site?

      I'm not trying to rain on anyones parade here, but I'm looking for the reasoning behind doing something like this, other than it would be cool. Can you explain what these types of sites would offer that you can't find already?

      Rich

        Like you said.. What sets the site apart is the community.
        It may or may not happen if you set up another 'Monks' site, but, just perhaps it will happen..
        I stayed with Perl Monks, because it fit comfortably. I don't go so much to other places, because.. They just don't feel as welcoming.. The atmosphere just isn't there.
        And, as the old addages go: "You only regret the things you never do" and "You never know unless you try".
        Personally, I think it'd be a great idea to have many monasteries.

        Malk

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