Re^3: getting rid of special features

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Re^4: getting rid of special features by moritz (Cardinal) on Feb 17, 2013 at 15:23 UTC
You are right mostly about that, but there are other reasons to abolish them. They make Perl 5 harder to learn, harder to write correctly, harder to read and contribute to its reputation as a language full of cruft. The fact that they make it harder to translate Perl 5 to other languages is at first merely another symptom of the problem. But if Perl 5 doesn't want to be tied to the C world forever, and wants to explore other environment (JVM/dalvik-only mobile phones and browsers, just to name two appealing ones), the lack of portability that those features introduce becomes a problem on its own. Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed	[reply]
Re^5: getting rid of special features by Anonymous Monk on Feb 17, 2013 at 15:43 UTC
the lack of portability that those features introduce becomes a problem on its own. come on now, we're talking about autoincrement here, its as trivial as it gets	[reply]
Re^6: getting rid of special features by moritz (Cardinal) on Feb 17, 2013 at 16:58 UTC
No, we're not only talking about autoincrement, we are also talking about empty // being special-cased and so on. Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed	[reply]
Re^7: getting rid of special features by Anonymous Monk on Feb 17, 2013 at 17:03 UTC
Re^4: getting rid of special features by LanX (Monsignor) on Feb 17, 2013 at 20:03 UTC
JS is nowadays not only the most widespread language... ... because of its minimality one should think of it as a VM with incredible efficient JIT performance. Now think of benchmarks where a "python2js" conversion runs 10 times faster than a "perl2js" because you can't use ++ but you need a method inc(), which has to handle a special case which is only known to a little minority of people ... Wouldn't you love to have a pragma telling the compiler: No Sir, I don't need that magic here! ? Cheers Rolf UPDATE: added quotes.	[reply]
Re^5: getting rid of special features by Anonymous Monk on Feb 19, 2013 at 09:26 UTC
What are you talking about, got link?	[reply]
Re^5: getting rid of special features by tobyink (Prior) on Feb 19, 2013 at 09:52 UTC
"Wouldn't you love to have a pragma telling the compiler: No Sir, I don't need that magic here! ? ... or just run `perl2js --opt assume_increment_is_numeric=1` `package Cow { use Moo; has name => (is => 'lazy', default => sub { 'Mooington' }) } say Cow->new->name`	[reply] [d/l]
Re^6: getting rid of special features by LanX (Monsignor) on Feb 19, 2013 at 10:37 UTC
For the records I didn't mean any specific "perl2js" or "python2js" implementation. > ... or just run perl2js --opt assume_increment_is_numeric=1 ATM his is the only mode that perlito knows! But if you need to be sure that the Perlš side does the same thing, you will end up in overloading `++`, hence considerably slowing down the Perl side. Cheers Rolf š) is there any name for the standard interpreter/compiler? "CPerl" maybe? ;)	[reply] [d/l]


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