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What do you think about "Thank you"-nodes?

by McA (Curate)
on Mar 22, 2013 at 09:44 UTC ( #1024900=monkdiscuss: print w/ replies, xml ) Need Help??

Hi Monks,

I had some questions in the past, which were answered fast and helpfully for me. Really great. That's the reason why I take the time to answer other questions as good as I can. I want to give something back as I don't like to have outstanding dept. (Yes, yes, I'm sure I'll never pay back the whole dept of using the Perl ecosystem ;-) )

When I answer a question I'm really interested in feedback: Whether it was read or hopefully helped to solve the problem. That's the reason why I regularly write - let's call it - "Thank-you-nodes".

Now I want to hear your opinion: These nodes don't have any Perl related information. The "only" information they have is valuable to the one who was so kind to take his time helping me.

Do you feel disturbed by these "Thank-you-nodes"? Do you think pressing ++ commentless is enough?

McA

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Re: What do you think about "Thank you"-nodes?
by BrowserUk (Pope) on Mar 22, 2013 at 09:50 UTC
    The "only" information they have is valuable to the one who was so kind to take his time helping me.

    I disagree. They often also indicate which of many replies the OP found most useful/helpful/correct. Which is often just as perl related as the questions.

    Do you feel disturbed by these "Thank-you-nodes"?

    No. I'm happy to see them, for others replies; happy to receive them for my own replies; and happy to post them for good replies to my own questions.


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Re: What do you think about "Thank you"-nodes?
by Ratazong (Prior) on Mar 22, 2013 at 10:19 UTC

      Thank you.

      It seems I have missed rule #1: Let's search first! Sorry for that. Probably I have to rename this thread to a discussion about "I'm-sorry-nodes" ;-)

      McA

Re: What do you think about "Thank you"-nodes?
by LanX (Canon) on Mar 22, 2013 at 10:20 UTC
    I'm often upvoting "Thank-You"s.

    If a monks spend time and efforts into presenting a possible solution he deserves a feedback!

    It also indicates if the thread is still "open".

    Sometimes I even downvote OPs later who silently pick a solution and disappear without feedback.

    Cheers Rolf

    ( addicted to the Perl Programming Language)

Re: What do you think about "Thank you"-nodes?
by space_monk (Chaplain) on Mar 22, 2013 at 12:35 UTC
    I'm quite polite, but I haven't noticed significant upvoting of the thankyou nodes I posted in my last query. One of them was downvoted, although it did say that the previous poster didn't successfully answer my question.

    However, I think thankyou nodes are useful to indicate whether the answer was successful. I don't really expect them to be upvoted though, as apart from giving some feedback they often don't contain information strictly useful, so I think they should be neither up or downvoted.

    A Monk aims to give answers to those who have none, and to learn from those who know more.
Re: What do you think about "Thank you"-nodes?
by topher (Scribe) on Mar 22, 2013 at 15:57 UTC

    As long as people aren't going crazy with them, I don't think there's any problems with them, and in fact I rather like them.

    To me, if I ask a question and someone responds with a good answer, especially if it is obvious they put a lot of time or effort into it, I generally thank them for their help.

    And on the other side, when someone asks a question and I put a lot of work into writing up a thorough and complete answer, or I spend time sitting down and coming up with a solution for them, coding it out, testing it to make sure it works correctly, and then writing up an explanation for it, I greatly appreciate it when someone says thanks.

    I don't expect a thank you, but I have to admit that there have been a few times where I put a lot of time into a response and never heard back from the original poster. When you do that and never get any response from the original poster (no thank you, no questions, no anything), it sometimes leave you wondering if they're actually reading it, or if you're just wasting your time.

    Christopher Cashell
Re: What do you think about "Thank you"-nodes?
by kcott (Abbot) on Mar 22, 2013 at 16:06 UTC

    G'day McA,

    Whenever I've asked a question, I've made a point of individually thanking all those who replied. Even if the answer wasn't particularly helpful, I can still thank them for taking the time to answer.

    Where I see others taking the time to individually thank those who've helped them, they'll often garner quite a few upvotes from me.

    I would never Consider a thankyou node as OT; nor have I ever seen anyone else do this. Basically, a thankyou is just common courtesy and good manners.

    I don't see what could be disturbing about someone saying thankyou. Perhaps I've misunderstood your intent.

    -- Ken

Re: What do you think about "Thank you"-nodes?
by davido (Archbishop) on Mar 22, 2013 at 16:16 UTC

    A sincere thank-you, even if it's a concise one is appreciated, and a nice thing to do. A thank-you following every single response to a question is annoying, and even more so when the OP posts another question that shows none of the earlier responses were understood. ;)


    Dave

Re: What do you think about "Thank you"-nodes?
by SuicideJunkie (Priest) on Mar 22, 2013 at 16:41 UTC

    For a shorter thread, with one particular answer, a thanks reply flows well.

    For larger threads with multiple answers, thank-yous would quickly start to get spammy. Appending the thanks to the original post may be a better idea so that future readers can see right away that there were some good answers and find them faster.

Re: What do you think about "Thank you"-nodes?
by Old_Gray_Bear (Bishop) on Mar 22, 2013 at 19:00 UTC
    I have always used a private message to convey my thanks. I believe that /msg is transient (unless archived by the recipient), so it doesn't permanently reserve space in the PM database.

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Re: What do you think about "Thank you"-nodes?
by Anonymous Monk on Mar 22, 2013 at 22:50 UTC

      Ha :) me blind again (got distracted and missed that this was already linked), so to repeat and expand on my previous reply

      I appreciate genuine thoughtful follow-ups/responses

      The kind that say thanks, I went with this approach for that reason

      Or here's the code solution I adapted

      Or I thought about that, but ...

      Basically like a real conversation :)

      I'm not a fan of 30 identical "thanks for your reply/interest", its ok to summarize when publicly addressing groups, you can always use /msg for 30 identical thank you notes

      But I dislike the rare and disingenuous non-responsive thank-you-then-copy/paste-something-verbatim-again, but I think we can all agree on that

Re: What do you think about "Thank you"-nodes?
by DrHyde (Prior) on Mar 25, 2013 at 12:19 UTC
    Let's turn this around. Does saying "thankyou" publicly do any harm? I don't think it does, and so it shouldn't be discouraged.

      Let's turn this around. Does saying "thankyou" publicly do any harm? I don't think it does, and so it shouldn't be discouraged.

      Nope, of course not, its nice to acknowledge that we're all human being interacting electronically, and this shouldn't be discouraged, but let's not forget either that just like in real life, when conversating with a group, and you're trying to convey a general public thank you, you don't walk up to each individual to repeat your identical thank you message -- you might spend half the night trying to thank everybody, do you really have the time?

      It does no harm, but depending on the number of participants in a thread, its tiresome to keep thanking folks personally -- and it might very slightly increase the noise level of the thread

Re: What do you think about "Thank you"-nodes?
by ambrus (Abbot) on Mar 25, 2013 at 22:05 UTC

    I like to see thank you notes because it shows that people return to read answers.

    On perlmonks, on other forums, and especially on IRC, you see lots of people who enter, ask a question, then never return. Sometimes these make you think answering questions of newbies is completely pointless, because they're not listening. The thank you notes are what restore my confidence that we're not working in vain.

    This also explains why I like to see the thank you in nodes rather than private messages: because I want to see the thank you even if I did not give an answer. SuicideJunkie, however, has a point above where he says that one could update the original post to append a thank you instead of posting a reply.

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