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Re^4: How many man-hours would you estimate you have invested in learning Perl?

by educated_foo (Vicar)
on Apr 04, 2013 at 18:41 UTC ( #1027024=note: print w/replies, xml ) Need Help??

in reply to Re^3: How many man-hours would you estimate you have invested in learning Perl?
in thread How many man-hours would you estimate you have invested in learning Perl?

Update: Why the downvotes? Can't you take a JOKE?
Maybe it's because people are sick of you spouting the same who-little-old-me, tendentious, tiresome bullshit year after year.

EDIT: here's the original comment, which chromatic deleted

Calm down. It's just a joke.

I don't know you and I don't know anything about you, but I do know this: you don't belong on PerlMonks because of some characteristic that has nothing to do with your programming ability. You aren't intelligent enough. Your brain doesn't work the right way. Your skin color is just a little bit wrong. Some aspect of your biology isn't the same as mine. You don't share every opinion I do. The only reason we keep you around is so we can point and laugh at how pathetic you and the people like you are. You'll never be good at programming. We snicker and roll our eyes every time you say something. It's cute, the way you think you can fit in.

I'm going to give you subtle reminders of this as often as I can, because it's hiliarious.

Hey everyone, look at the Ratazong! There's a Ratazong in the room! Maybe it can prove it's really a Ratazong, and not merely a tagalong for a real programmer who really belongs in here.

Ha ha.


What's that? You don't like hearing this? Cry me a river, you faker. It's just a joke. Why don't you grow up? If you can't handle a little ribbing every time you come around, you've just proved that you and people like you who aren't exactly like me don't belong here. We don't care about your feelings because you're the representative of everyone like you, and if you dare to tell us you might disagree, that just proves that you'll never, ever, never ever hack it as one of us.

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Re^5: How many man-hours would you estimate you have invested in learning Perl?
by pemungkah (Priest) on Apr 09, 2013 at 23:41 UTC
    You are right, it was too much. But let us try to see the parable that he was trying to illustrate, even if it was done badly. Would we be treating Ratazong equally if any of the ridicule and exclusion the original post spoke of were allowed to happen? We would not be. It would be wrong. It would be counter to what I believe the spirit of Perl to be.

    If we treat classes of people like this, then we're not doing what many people are trying to do for the Perl community: make it more inclusive, make it more welcoming, listen; try to find consensus; change if change is needed, be compassionate if no change is possible.

    Manifestos and conference codes of conduct are great; we should have them. But what we really need to do is live according to them. Or, if that's not possible, claim our rebellion by name, and say, "no, I believe you are asking too much," and engage to try to fix what we see as a problem.

    I commented here because I felt that the unwritten, unspoken tenets of Perlmonks have begun to increasingly demand too much acquiescence to microagressions of many kinds (not only gendered but cultural as well), and I wanted to establish that I (and as we have seen, others) felt that these unwritten laws needed to be looked at.

    He's not perfect, certainly, but think of it this way: Would you expect Larry to nod approvingly if the kind of stuff that's been said in this thread were said in front of him? Would you be proud to walk up to Larry at YAPC or OSCON and say "I called someone a beliigerent two faced cancerous asshole on Perlmonks today!"? (Search the thread, it's a quote.)

    Do you think he'd say, "I am so glad you're associating that kind of thing with the language I've worked on for years. Good job."? Or do you think he'd be more likely to look at you and say, "I don't think that was right."?

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