Re^3: (Toward a better PerlMonks) Who do we serve, and why, and how can we do it better?by Argel (Prior)
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Perhaps it's not the lack of leadership, but when the leaders actively work against the site. Are we really to believe that several months of trolling had no impact on The Monastery? Or the hall monitoring for questions that do not meet some clique's requirements had no impact? And what if the gods collectively came out against the hall monitoring?
How about this exchange in Re^4: Do Not Feed the Trolls!!! (ban) between tye and chromatic way back in 2007:
Tye: But when, for example, one of the gods appears to make a personal project of carrying on an extended discussion with "the troll"...
Is it any surprise then that a few years later we see Corion, chromatic, ikegami, and others encouraging arguably the worst troll we have ever had for months on end?
Your own previous post, Politeness (to one another) is a virtue, provided for some interesting (and depressing reading). This thread stands out: 939315, 939349 - 940494. Here's a heavily edited for brevity version (without any "..."):
chromatic If you care to read those threads, you'll see me advising him to tread lightly as well as telling people to stop abusing him.Of course, if you research back to the events (2011 time frame), you will find that others such as Corion and ikegami were heavily engaged as well.
Anyway, the point is that the gods collectively abdicated their responsibility to this site in favor of personal goals (presumably trying to bring a technically gifted but antagonistic person into the Perl community).
So here we are, a few years later, and you really have to ask if leadership matters; has had an impact on this site? How many potential new members did we lose over that several month period? How many regulars did we lose, either completely or partially via reduced participation?
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