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How do I attach a large source file to my question?
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by dhannotte
on Jan 16, 2017 at 10:00
    Must I upload the file to some website, and then give its URL in the posting? Thanks!
Orphaned Page, Lost Content, Other Issues
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by kcott
on Jan 08, 2017 at 00:05

    I just wrote a reply to "Re^2: how to improve: use MODULE VERSION LIST" (id://1179142). I previewed twice then created. All looked good and perfectly normal up to this point.

    When the "created" page appeared, I followed the link to the start of the thread: "how to improve: use MODULE VERSION LIST" (id://1179107). This appeared but, when I scrolled down, my post was nowhere to be seen.

    I went to Newest Nodes and a post by me was at the top of the Notes list. I followed that link "Reaped: Re^3: how to improve: use MODULE VERSION LIST (id://1179154) but found an orphaned page (i.e. no "in reply to" or "in thread" links at the top). The page also had no content. It did have what appeared to be the correct title ("Re^3: how to improve: use MODULE VERSION LIST"): small consolation.

    I went back to the tab where I'd created my response. I hit the back button and the content of my response was there BUT it said "by 1nickt" followed by "on Jan 08, 2017 at 09:00 AEDT ( #1179146=note: print w/replies, xml )". Note, that ID (1179146) is different from the one in Newest Nodes (1179154).

    I followed that link: it was an earlier reply by 1nickt to a different node in the same thread.

    Hitting the back button again (on the tab where I'd created my response) took me back to my final edit prior to posting. I've saved the content: I can post it again when the problem's fixed.

    — Ken

2 Days until the big birthday!
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by sparkyichi
on Dec 20, 2016 at 04:53
    Just two more days and PM will turn 17?

    What do you have planned to celebrate?

    I have a bottle of bubbly saved just for such an occasion.

Inline code tags don't line-wrap
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by Athanasius
on Dec 19, 2016 at 02:51

    Code tags are described in a footnote within Perl Monks Approved HTML tags as follows:

    2<code> and <c>, used for displaying code/data, are not true HTML tags, but are interpreted by the PerlMonks engine. They inhibit the normal interpretation of enclosed HTML special characters like <, >, &, [, and ]. Any newlines in the enclosed code will be rendered such that long lines wrap....

    However, this is not always the case. Looking at the recent thread Regex string trimming help, I noticed that the display was significantly wider than my (wide!) monitor, because the first block of code in the OP was not wrapping (whereas the same code in tybalt89’s reply was wrapping as expected). As a janitor I was able to fix this by putting the opening and closing <code> tags in the first code block of the OP onto separate lines. So the description in Perl Monks Approved HTML tags is not true for inline code.

    Is this a bug, or the intended behaviour? I suspect it’s the latter. In which case, should the explanation in Perl Monks Approved HTML tags (and perhaps also in Markup in the Monastery) be changed to reflect the fact that line wrapping occurs only when the code tags are separated from the enclosed text by line breaks, but not when they are inlined?

    Although the problem of over-wide nodes arising from <code>-tagged lines that don’t wrap is not overly common, I do think it arises often enough to make this an issue worth addressing.


    Athanasius <°(((><contra mundum Iustus alius egestas vitae, eros Piratica,

Unanswered Nodes
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by cormanaz
on Dec 16, 2016 at 16:56
    Have the monastery keepers ever considered adding a filter link or something in Seekers that would show any nodes that have not received a reply? Whenever I come on the site I have a look for things that I might be able to answer that others have not, and such a link would help do this without clicking through nodes 10 at a time.
    No cerveza, no trabajo.
SSCCE down? (updated)
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by haukex
on Dec 08, 2016 at 03:02
No update of headlines.rdf...
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by Anonymous Monk
on Nov 23, 2016 at 12:38

    ..for a week or two.

    Is the url still valid?

Editing node titles w.r.t. Perl 6
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by talexb
on Nov 23, 2016 at 10:29

    I just read [Perl6] [+] on a list... with a Junction, and saw the Consideration for it to be re-titled as OT: "Perl6" from [+] on a list... with a Junction, and wondered if this is something that needs standardization. There are going to be more posts that deal specifically with Perl 6 -- and it would be nice to use the title differentiate these posts in some way. This would serve readers, as well as future archivists.

    For this post, how about Perl 6: [+] on a list... with a Junction?

    Alex / talexb / Toronto

    Thanks PJ. We owe you so much. Groklaw -- RIP -- 2003 to 2013.

MCPAN Nodelet
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by choroba
on Nov 13, 2016 at 03:42
    I find MetaCPAN much more readable and comfortable to use than plain CPAN. Could the CPAN Nodelet be changed to link to MetaCPAN instead of CPAN? Or to be at least configurable?

    ($q=q:Sq=~/;[c](.)(.)/;chr(-||-|5+lengthSq)`"S|oS2"`map{chr |+ord }map{substrSq`S_+|`|}3E|-|`7**2-3:)=~y+S|`+$1,++print+eval$q,q,a,
The Monastery Gates reverted?
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by Anonymous Monk
on Nov 12, 2016 at 12:11

    Is there a reason why the entry page to the site - The Monastery Gates -- reverted from having posts in maybe 6 or 7 NOV, to where the newest post was from OCT31? (Or is that somehow stuck in my cache? But reloading the page from my browser did not help.)

Selected Best Nodes: 2011-2015
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by eyepopslikeamosquito
on Nov 11, 2016 at 05:52
PM currently very slow, caused empty post? (updated)
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by haukex
on Nov 05, 2016 at 11:58

    Hi all,

    Accessing PerlMonks has been very slow for me today, and my first attempt at posting a reply to amazon sns subscription resulted in the empty node Reaped: Re: amazon sns subscription, which also didn't end up as a child of that node, but in RAT it shows up in the "Notes" section. Not sure what's going on, but I did notice that yesterday's node Re^4: wide scrollbars also ended up in the "Notes" section.

    Update 2: I'm assuming someone saw my post, since now, a few minutes after posting, the site's speed seems to be picking up a little bit - still not fast, but better. Thanks!

    -- Hauke D

    Update: Clarification: first attempt was unsuccessful, second attempt was successful

Notification of updates to "Tidings"
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by kcott
on Nov 02, 2016 at 15:40

    "Tidings" (aka "What's New at PerlMonks" in the Information Nodelet and "What's New" in the block of links at the top of each page) is updated infrequently: there have been just nine additions in the last two years: 4 in 2016 and 5 in 2015. It is far from obvious when changes occur. I would like to propose that some prominent notification of changes to this node be implemented.

    Here's some suggestions for discussion:

    I have noted that "(*)" appears after "What's New at PerlMonks" in the Information Nodelet. I'm guessing this is intended to indicate a change but it is neither obvious nor prominent.

    — Ken

Problem with number of votes (02/11/2016)
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by marto
on Nov 02, 2016 at 07:07

    It would seem that a rare instance of the vote fairy being late or not having visited has occurred. I seem to recall this happening at least a couple of times in the past, it's a very rare occurrence. The number of votes I have left today is the number I had left over from yesterday. To my knowledge one of these instances was related to a problem with a code change, I don't remember the other root cause. Posting this as it's now been discussed a couple of times in the chatter box. I've also messaged the gods to make them aware of the situation, not that it's a big deal.

Slow day?
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by BrowserUk
on Oct 31, 2016 at 20:22

    Today seems to have been a remarkably slow day.

    On the basis of nothing more than gut feel, it seemed to start out relatively normal for modern times; but then it tailed off to almost total inactivity around lunch GMT.

    Two questions:

    1. Can my gut feel be confirmed by statistics?
    2. Was there any type of connectivity issue preventing people from posting?

    No big deal, I'm just curious as a couple of other sites I visit daily suffered the vagaries of DDoS attacked today.

    With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
    Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
    "Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority". I knew I was on the right track :)
    In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.

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