I've got a mix - some who don't know scripting at all, some who've 'done a bit of shell' and a few others that have done some amazing hacky monstrosities in shell. (which works, but only as long as no one sneezes anywhere near). I'm not trying to convert them - not entirely - more give them an opportunity to learn something that might be useful. I think there's definite advantages to a fairly standard approach, but failing that at least _some_ mutual understanding is useful/necessary. (And I'm not planning on stopping with Perl, just because someone else has only seen VBS).